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  • (Wow, I'm really happy this reached part IV. I really didn't think it would go so far. Thanks to everybody!)

    You may continue RPing, scheming, plotting, warring, etc. as usual. Can someone please clarify what's happening at Tirith? I need to know so I can properly respond. Also, Indom, what ships do you mean?

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    • Well. There's a giant hole in the northern Rammas Echor and i'm waiting for a troop count for the main gate cause i've got 100-200 disguised cavalry behind enemy lines at the main gate.

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    • Ioreth's crappy leftover fleet, and the fleet belonging to the supposed Prince.

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    • A rider named Argor enters the Arnorian palace... "I must see his grace at once!"

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote: A rider named Argor enters the Arnorian palace... "I must see his grace at once!"

      He is admitted.

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote: Well. There's a giant hole in the northern Rammas Echor and i'm waiting for a troop count for the main gate cause i've got 100-200 disguised cavalry behind enemy lines at the main gate.

      I'll have that for you today

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote: A rider named Argor enters the Arnorian palace... "I must see his grace at once!"

      He is admitted.

      He kneels respectfully "Your grace" 

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Patrick.vtap wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote: A rider named Argor enters the Arnorian palace... "I must see his grace at once!"

      He is admitted.

      He kneels respectfully "Your grace" 

      "Speak quickly."

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Patrick.vtap wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote: A rider named Argor enters the Arnorian palace... "I must see his grace at once!"

      He is admitted.
      He kneels respectfully "Your grace" 
      "Speak quickly."

      He nods "The rebellion against the tyranny of Aragost and now Ioreth would ask of you to give aid"

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Patrick.vtap wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Patrick.vtap wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote: A rider named Argor enters the Arnorian palace... "I must see his grace at once!"

      He is admitted.
      He kneels respectfully "Your grace" 
      "Speak quickly."

      He nods "The rebellion against the tyranny of Aragost and now Ioreth would ask of you to give aid"

      "No. We have already cast our lot in your Southern war."

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    • (Guys: Can we have some action on the Minas Tirith battle? Nobody seems to be replying)

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    • Dragon, respond.

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Patrick.vtap wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:


      Patrick.vtap wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote: A rider named Argor enters the Arnorian palace... "I must see his grace at once!"

      He is admitted.
      He kneels respectfully "Your grace" 
      "Speak quickly."
      He nods "The rebellion against the tyranny of Aragost and now Ioreth would ask of you to give aid"
      "No. We have already cast our lot in your Southern war."

      "Pardon?"

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote:
      (Guys: Can we have some action on the Minas Tirith battle? Nobody seems to be replying)

      YOU HAVE YET TO GIVE ME THE NUMBERS :/

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote: Dragon, respond.

      To me...

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Dragon, respond.

      To me...

      What did you say? xD Sorry I didn't see

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Dragon, respond.

      To me...

      What did you say? xD Sorry I didn't see

      Check the old thread.

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    • He contemplates that for a moment... "I doubt things will go well if they hold the Rammas Echor"

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote: He contemplates that for a moment... "I doubt things will go well if they hold the Rammas Echor"

      "What is the opposition on the wall? How heavily are they defending it?"

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote: He contemplates that for a moment... "I doubt things will go well if they hold the Rammas Echor"

      What is the opposition on the wall? How heavily are they defending it?

      Good question. PATRICK WHO I'M STILL WAITING ON

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    • With Osgiliath probably on the brink of collapsing at this point, riots are commmon and the killings continue. Today as the current steward of the city adresses the people there's an unhealthy feeling in the air...

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    • Still waiting for the assault...

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    • The Indomitable wrote: Still waiting for the assault...

      On Umbar?

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    • Pat, if you want the RP to keep moving give dragon what he wants or overrule him and let the rest go us continue without him

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    • TheShade6 wrote:
      Pat, if you want the RP to keep moving give dragon what he wants or overrule him and let the rest go us continue without him

      Ok sorry guys was distracted from this obliviousness and all. 

      200 riders disguised as loyalists ride up behind the main gate of the Rammas Echor, dismount and position themselves at the cannons, attempting to shove them over the side at whatever cost before attacking the people also on the Rammas Echor that are actual loyalists. (FOrmation being turtle style. A few got up to the cannons and the rest shieldwalled around em

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    • No one knows what started it. But at some point during the speech a rock was thrown or a word shouted out. And then all hell broke loose. Soldiers were trampled and made rude red here they stood as mobs charged the platform, tearing the city's steward apart. House were torched, and bloodshed rained in the streets. Unless the soldiers can out this rebellion down the whole city will soon have revolted.

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote:

      On Umbar?

      Yeah.

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote:
      Pat, if you want the RP to keep moving give dragon what he wants or overrule him and let the rest go us continue without him

      Ok sorry guys was distracted from this obliviousness and all. 

      200 riders disguised as loyalists ride up behind the main gate of the Rammas Echor, dismount and position themselves at the cannons, attempting to shove them over the side at whatever cost before attacking the people also on the Rammas Echor that are actual loyalists. (FOrmation being turtle style. A few got up to the cannons and the rest shieldwalled around em

      (Wait, you mean they got past the wall?)

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    • The Indomitable wrote:

      Patrick.vtap wrote:

      On Umbar?

      Yeah.

      The majority of the Fleet is in quite a ragged condition, but seaworthy, while the Iron-ships are still pristine. They sail into the Bay of Umbar under cover of night. The city guard is awoken by the sound of cannon-fire on the city.

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote:
      Pat, if you want the RP to keep moving give dragon what he wants or overrule him and let the rest go us continue without him
      Ok sorry guys was distracted from this obliviousness and all. 

      200 riders disguised as loyalists ride up behind the main gate of the Rammas Echor, dismount and position themselves at the cannons, attempting to shove them over the side at whatever cost before attacking the people also on the Rammas Echor that are actual loyalists. (FOrmation being turtle style. A few got up to the cannons and the rest shieldwalled around em

      (Wait, you mean they got past the wall?)

      They're the ones who blew a hole in the North side. 

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote:

      The majority of the Fleet is in quite a ragged condition, but seaworthy, while the Iron-ships are still pristine. They sail into the Bay of Umbar under cover of night. The city guard is awoken by the sound of cannon-fire on the city.

      After a short delay, they are met by cannon, and musket fire in return. Cannister, chain, and solid shot begins to rain down upon them, in a hail of lead, issuing from the city itself, and from small, camoflauged batteries along the bay. 

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Patrick.vtap wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote:
      Pat, if you want the RP to keep moving give dragon what he wants or overrule him and let the rest go us continue without him
      Ok sorry guys was distracted from this obliviousness and all. 

      200 riders disguised as loyalists ride up behind the main gate of the Rammas Echor, dismount and position themselves at the cannons, attempting to shove them over the side at whatever cost before attacking the people also on the Rammas Echor that are actual loyalists. (FOrmation being turtle style. A few got up to the cannons and the rest shieldwalled around em

      (Wait, you mean they got past the wall?)

      They're the ones who blew a hole in the North side. 

      So quite a noticeable assault was suddenly undefended on the other side, and the men allowed to march freely without resistance to get to the other side, again without resistance, and right up to the cannons - without resistance?

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    • The Indomitable wrote:

      Patrick.vtap wrote:

      The majority of the Fleet is in quite a ragged condition, but seaworthy, while the Iron-ships are still pristine. They sail into the Bay of Umbar under cover of night. The city guard is awoken by the sound of cannon-fire on the city.

      After a short delay, they are met by cannon, and musket fire in return. Cannister, chain, and solid shot begins to rain down upon them, in a hail of lead, issuing from the city itself, and from small, camoflauged batteries along the bay. 

      The Fleet, surprised by this turn of events and not expecting their enemies to have gunpowder, begin to move to blast the batteries to smithereens, while the normal ships sail towards the docks to attack the city.

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Patrick.vtap wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:


      TheShade6 wrote:
      Pat, if you want the RP to keep moving give dragon what he wants or overrule him and let the rest go us continue without him
      Ok sorry guys was distracted from this obliviousness and all. 

      200 riders disguised as loyalists ride up behind the main gate of the Rammas Echor, dismount and position themselves at the cannons, attempting to shove them over the side at whatever cost before attacking the people also on the Rammas Echor that are actual loyalists. (FOrmation being turtle style. A few got up to the cannons and the rest shieldwalled around em

      (Wait, you mean they got past the wall?)
      They're the ones who blew a hole in the North side. 
      So quite a noticeable assault was suddenly undefended on the other side, and the men allowed to march freely without resistance to get to the other side, again without resistance, and right up to the cannons - without resistance?

      Pat said they blew a hole in the wall so...

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Patrick.vtap wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:


      TheShade6 wrote:
      Pat, if you want the RP to keep moving give dragon what he wants or overrule him and let the rest go us continue without him
      Ok sorry guys was distracted from this obliviousness and all. 

      200 riders disguised as loyalists ride up behind the main gate of the Rammas Echor, dismount and position themselves at the cannons, attempting to shove them over the side at whatever cost before attacking the people also on the Rammas Echor that are actual loyalists. (FOrmation being turtle style. A few got up to the cannons and the rest shieldwalled around em

      (Wait, you mean they got past the wall?)
      They're the ones who blew a hole in the North side. 
      So quite a noticeable assault was suddenly undefended on the other side, and the men allowed to march freely without resistance to get to the other side, again without resistance, and right up to the cannons - without resistance?

      Pat said they blew a hole in the wall so...

      They're going to be opposed, and noticed, really quite soon...

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:


      Patrick.vtap wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:


      TheShade6 wrote:
      Pat, if you want the RP to keep moving give dragon what he wants or overrule him and let the rest go us continue without him
      Ok sorry guys was distracted from this obliviousness and all. 

      200 riders disguised as loyalists ride up behind the main gate of the Rammas Echor, dismount and position themselves at the cannons, attempting to shove them over the side at whatever cost before attacking the people also on the Rammas Echor that are actual loyalists. (FOrmation being turtle style. A few got up to the cannons and the rest shieldwalled around em

      (Wait, you mean they got past the wall?)
      They're the ones who blew a hole in the North side. 
      So quite a noticeable assault was suddenly undefended on the other side, and the men allowed to march freely without resistance to get to the other side, again without resistance, and right up to the cannons - without resistance?
      Pat said they blew a hole in the wall so...
      They're going to be opposed, and noticed, really quite soon...

      They're riders that look like loyalists. I highly doubt that if they say "Hey we're here for a little backup" they're gonna freak out and attack them.

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:


      Patrick.vtap wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:


      TheShade6 wrote:
      Pat, if you want the RP to keep moving give dragon what he wants or overrule him and let the rest go us continue without him
      Ok sorry guys was distracted from this obliviousness and all. 

      200 riders disguised as loyalists ride up behind the main gate of the Rammas Echor, dismount and position themselves at the cannons, attempting to shove them over the side at whatever cost before attacking the people also on the Rammas Echor that are actual loyalists. (FOrmation being turtle style. A few got up to the cannons and the rest shieldwalled around em

      (Wait, you mean they got past the wall?)
      They're the ones who blew a hole in the North side. 
      So quite a noticeable assault was suddenly undefended on the other side, and the men allowed to march freely without resistance to get to the other side, again without resistance, and right up to the cannons - without resistance?
      Pat said they blew a hole in the wall so...
      They're going to be opposed, and noticed, really quite soon...

      They're riders that look like loyalists. I highly doubt that if they say "Hey we're here for a little backup" they're gonna freak out and attack them.

      They just blew a hole in the wall.

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    • So. "Hey we're here to help in case people come in thorugh the hole in the wall" seems perfectly logical to me

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    • (So, immediately after blowing the wall, an army appears out of the blue towards the Gates, and you expect them not to be suspicious?)

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    • (I look at it as, immediately after an explosion, a group of soldiers were dispatched and most likely here BECAUSE someone blew a hole in the wall and they're reinforcements)

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote:
      (I look at it as, immediately after an explosion, a group of soldiers were dispatched and most likely here BECAUSE someone blew a hole in the wall and they're reinforcements)

      (But they're coming from the other side of the wall...)

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote:
      Dragonbiscuit wrote:
      (I look at it as, immediately after an explosion, a group of soldiers were dispatched and most likely here BECAUSE someone blew a hole in the wall and they're reinforcements)
      (But they're coming from the other side of the wall...)

      Well Minas Tirith is on the other side of the wall too

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Patrick.vtap wrote:
      Dragonbiscuit wrote:
      (I look at it as, immediately after an explosion, a group of soldiers were dispatched and most likely here BECAUSE someone blew a hole in the wall and they're reinforcements)
      (But they're coming from the other side of the wall...)

      Well Minas Tirith is on the other side of the wall too

      He means your side of the wall.

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    • Two fronts, north, south section of wall

      North: hole blown through, riders went through and dressed as reinforcements

      South: riders dressed as reinforcements show up from the tirith side of wall

      Pat your call

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    • Alright, I'm cool with the south, but I'm having a hard time buying that soldiers who just blew up the wall are now marching torwards it and expect to meet no resistence. 

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote:
      Alright, I'm cool with the south, but I'm having a hard time buying that soldiers who just blew up the wall are now marching torwards it and expect to meet no resistence. 

      Well perhaps since they're on light cavalry, they weren't at the scene when people arrived and thought they fell back.

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    • Just go with the south side option, the GM already agreed to it..

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Patrick.vtap wrote:
      Alright, I'm cool with the south, but I'm having a hard time buying that soldiers who just blew up the wall are now marching torwards it and expect to meet no resistence. 

      Well perhaps since they're on light cavalry, they weren't at the scene when people arrived and thought they fell back.

      They "fell back" through the wall?

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    • "Imrahil, make your move now. They're going to be distracted, perfect for the plan you told me about"

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    • Eradan looks towards the wall.

      "Considering the circumstances of the wall, I must agree with Lord Tacitus. It would be wisest to stay put. I will order my men to prepare themselves for an attack."

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    • Alright fine whatever. 15,000 men are attacking the Rammas Echor FROM BEHIND the gate, from the direction of Minas Tirith ok? They're using a shieldwall on the ladders to scale it while archers provide further cover

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    • TheShade6 wrote:
      "Imrahil, make your move now. They're going to be distracted, perfect for the plan you told me about"

      Herendil nods. "Adrahil, take your heavily armored troops to the western section of the wall. I'll assault the eastern section. We'll stretch out their forces with ladders, then punch through the center with a siege tower where they're weakest."

      "As you say, father."

      "Trever, take a small number of the troops and hold a rearguard. I don't want us getting surrounded."

      "Yes, sir."

      "Travian, get those siege towers ready. When the time comes, you'll have to move fast before they can blast it with canons."

      "Aye."

      "Come on, boys! Tonight we'll be in glory or Mandos' Halls! For Gondor!"

      Herendil charges forward, his men flinging ladders along the entire southern length of the wall.

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    • The defenders answer by trying to fill the areas immediately threatened by the ladders with melee troops, and getting any ranged troops - including cannons and so on - to the area directly in between the two fighters, firing upon the closest enemies in an attempt to relieve the fighting against the two sides by thinning out the enemy lines.

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    • Anorien's archers aim for those manning the cannons as well as the other ranged soldiers. 

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    • (BTW Just for numbers sake. There's 15,000 men attacking from behind the Rammas Echor and 17,500 attacking from the other side)

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    • None of our armies even have 10,000...

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:
      None of our armies even have 10,000...

      Pat said Anorien has 15,100 and DA has 18,000

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    • You can't have your entire force in one place, and only Imrahil can say what DA does

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    • Pane hops onto his horse "archers, with me! Cover your brethren!"

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    • TheShade6 wrote:
      Pane hops onto his horse "archers, with me! Cover your brethren!"

      Imrahil and I talked about this?

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    • Imrahil and I talked about it. Archers were always part f the plan

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    • TheShade6 wrote:
      Imrahil and I talked about it. Archers were always part f the plan

      I was ordering MY archers not Imrahil and yours side my side sorry for any confusion

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    • "Bloody horror..."

      Virgil assigns Vigilants to snipe gunners with their crossbows(they carry Antimarius' improved design I've talked about a lot). He also sets up a pair of catapults to launch clay pots filled with various unpleasant things, ranging from broken glass and Atmoran Fire, to poisonous snakes and horseshit, at the enemy. He sends a runner to inform the Anoriens.

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    • Eradan sends a scout to inform Anorien to use its fighting force to cut off the breach in the wall from the outside wall near the west, while Ithilien would take the east.

      Ranger scouts (and possibly any scouts Aramir or Dragon want to send) are sent around the Rammas to meet with the other army.

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    • News reaches the allied forces. The garrison in Osgiliath has been overthrown. The city is now under the control of rebels. They are led by a rich merchant of currently unknown name.

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    • Is Osgiliath clean?

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:
      Is Osgiliath clean?

      Of the Plague?

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote:
      The Morgul Lord wrote:
      Is Osgiliath clean?
      Of the Plague?

      A wild PATrat appeared

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote: The Fleet, surprised by this turn of events and not expecting their enemies to have gunpowder, begin to move to blast the batteries to smithereens, while the normal ships sail towards the docks to attack the city.

      The fleet is being hit hard, and the batteries are scattered in many directions. The ships nearing the docks are hit by volleys from muskets, and from cannons on the walls.

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    • The Indomitable wrote:
      Patrick.vtap wrote: The Fleet, surprised by this turn of events and not expecting their enemies to have gunpowder, begin to move to blast the batteries to smithereens, while the normal ships sail towards the docks to attack the city.
      The fleet is being hit hard, and the batteries are scattered in many directions. The ships nearing the docks are hit by volleys from muskets, and from cannons on the walls.

      Many ships burst into splinters, but a few make it to the docs. The soldiers attempt to storm the docks, but they are mostly Corsair rabble.

      The fleet changes tactics, instead attempting to targetthe ships currently at the quays, to destroy Umbar's naval power.

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:
      Is Osgiliath clean?

      Of the Plague?

      Yes.

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote:
      The Indomitable wrote:
      Many ships burst into splinters, but a few make it to the docs. The soldiers attempt to storm the docks, but they are mostly Corsair rabble.

      The fleet changes tactics, instead attempting to targett he ships currently at the quays, to destroy Umbar's naval power.

      The withering hail of musket fire continues, and men begin to fall in droves. The fleet, notices several small, fast, and low to the water boats sailing towards them.

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Patrick.vtap wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:
      Is Osgiliath clean?

      Of the Plague?

      Yes.

      No, the population is a fraction of what it was, currently living in horrible conditions, and in revolt.

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    • The Indomitable wrote:

      Patrick.vtap wrote:
      The Indomitable wrote:
      Many ships burst into splinters, but a few make it to the docs. The soldiers attempt to storm the docks, but they are mostly Corsair rabble.

      The fleet changes tactics, instead attempting to targett he ships currently at the quays, to destroy Umbar's naval power.

      The withering hail of musket fire continues, and men begin to fall in droves. The fleet, notices several small, fast, and low to the water boats sailing towards them.

      They try to blast the aforementioned ships out of the water, while sending their own musket fire in return.

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    • (I guess we're just waiting on a verdict for the battle, maybe, IDK)

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    • ChazmanianDevil wrote: News reaches the allied forces. The garrison in Osgiliath has been overthrown. The city is now under the control of rebels. They are led by a rich merchant of currently unknown name.

      Not even after this?

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    • The Osgiliath rebels have begun instituting a variety of plague preventions. They're brutal, bodies and trash are burned and any sick are quarantined to one quadrant of the city.

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote: News reaches the allied forces. The garrison in Osgiliath has been overthrown. The city is now under the control of rebels. They are led by a rich merchant of currently unknown name.

      Not even after this?

      It's being cleansed, but not totally clean.

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    • An ambassador approaches the borders of Osgiliath upon this news. They have their mouths covered, but they have agreed to remain in the city to keep the plague from spreading to the other men of Ithilien.

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    • The Southern Colonial Army (sorry for names, I honestly can't remember it…) has managed to force its way through the southern areas of Ithilien - not burning and raiding, but simply marching. Now, they have reached the bridge to Osgiliath. It is decided, not without much deliberation, to rebuild the bridge. A fairly small group of them with any experience are chosen to build it, while all others guard, scout, hunt, and cook.

      In the North, the other army can be just about seen from Cair Andros, moving more slowly than one would expect, but that is not to say they aren't moving without haste.

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    • Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

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    • Anorien's forces pull pressure away from the center and instead hit the flanks with the exception of the archers no focussing on the center.

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    • (Power went out at school) 

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    • Virgil sends for Eradan and the lord of Anorien.

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote: Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

      There's no "want" about this.

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

      There's no "want" about this.

      I think he's saying that. Open attacking soldiers is a highly likely potential

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    • Aramirtheranger wrote: Virgil sends for Eradan and the lord of Anorien.

      Eradan reports back, having organized his soldiers in the defensive manner he wanted.

      "You summoned me?"

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Aramirtheranger wrote: Virgil sends for Eradan and the lord of Anorien.

      Eradan reports back, having organized his soldiers in the defensive manner he wanted.

      "You summoned me?"

      The Lord of Anorien is leading an attack atm so

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote: An ambassador approaches the borders of Osgiliath upon this news. They have their mouths covered, but they have agreed to remain in the city to keep the plague from spreading to the other men of Ithilien.

      They are brought through the city to the center square. Rubble and burned wood is everywhere, and workers still slave in the streets. But there's a difference. No dead lie in the corners. The light has returned to the people's eyes. Eventually they are brought to the center of the square where an old man is sitting in a chair with several masked mercenaries around him.

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

      There's no "want" about this.

      They find the east quadrant of the city is demolished, and easy for troops to be allowed in, but the only inhabitants are the sick, and the bridge between the two quadrants is broken.

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    • Eh... quadrant would be a quarter of the city. You mean half.

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    • ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: An ambassador approaches the borders of Osgiliath upon this news. They have their mouths covered, but they have agreed to remain in the city to keep the plague from spreading to the other men of Ithilien.

      They are brought through the city to the center square. Rubble and burned wood is everywhere, and workers still slave in the streets. But there's a difference. No dead lie in the corners. The light has returned to the people's eyes. Eventually they are brought to the center of the square where an old man is sitting in a chair with several masked mercenaries around him.

      "We come on behalf of Lord Eradan II of Ithilien, under authority of he and our general. He offers you alliance and aid. He offers to reverse the damages caused at the hands of Ithilien now that we fight for a similar cause. If it be your wish, the garrison surrounding the eastern half of the city would relocate on the condition that you accept the offered alliance, as there would no longer be a reason to keep enemy soldiers or ailed individuals from leaving the city. Half of them would be relocated to defensive positions throughout the realm of Eradan, the other would be placed outside of West Osgiliath as reinforcements against potential loyalist armies. The only condition he has established is that you continue your efforts to contain the plague to the point of rarity if any occurence at all. What might I tell my general?"

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    • ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

      There's no "want" about this.

      They find the east quadrant of the city is demolished, and easy for troops to be allowed in, but the only inhabitants are the sick, and the bridge between the two quadrants is broken.

      The locals are held away at a good distance, and avoided, though a few attempts to yell for a "local leader" are made.

      The army gets to work surrounding the area around the bridge, and fixing the thing to the extent that it's safe to carry the entire army over.

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

      There's no "want" about this.
      They find the east quadrant of the city is demolished, and easy for troops to be allowed in, but the only inhabitants are the sick, and the bridge between the two quadrants is broken.
      The locals are held away at a good distance, and avoided, though a few attempts to yell for a "local leader" are made.

      The army gets to work surrounding the area around the bridge, and fixing the thing to the extent that it's safe to carry the entire army over.

      The work goes quickly, and soon, the bridge is built. 

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

      There's no "want" about this.

      They find the east quadrant of the city is demolished, and easy for troops to be allowed in, but the only inhabitants are the sick, and the bridge between the two quadrants is broken.

      The locals are held away at a good distance, and avoided, though a few attempts to yell for a "local leader" are made.

      The army gets to work surrounding the area around the bridge, and fixing the thing to the extent that it's safe to carry the entire army over.

      They already have a local leader, the broken part is closer to the west side (by design), and Ithilien still has soldiers surrounding the east half of Osgiliath, and even if you were to slaughter every last one of them, all it would do is wear down your army's size.

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

      There's no "want" about this.

      They find the east quadrant of the city is demolished, and easy for troops to be allowed in, but the only inhabitants are the sick, and the bridge between the two quadrants is broken.

      The locals are held away at a good distance, and avoided, though a few attempts to yell for a "local leader" are made.

      The army gets to work surrounding the area around the bridge, and fixing the thing to the extent that it's safe to carry the entire army over.

      They already have a local leader, the broken part is closer to the west side (by design), and Ithilien still has soldiers surrounding the east half of Osgiliath, and even if you were to slaughter every last one of them, all it would do is wear down your army's size.

      No shit they have a leader - why else would I want to talk to them?

      Doesn't mean I can't fix it.

      Again, this is a massive army. If your soldiers got in the way, you should've quite simply pointed it out. I was under the assumption that, since I'd made it quite clear they were moving through Ithilien, you were placing no resistance.

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      In the North, the other army can be just about seen from Cair Andros, moving more slowly than one would expect, but that is not to say they aren't moving without haste.

      Now, are you going to answer this or not?

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

      There's no "want" about this.

      They find the east quadrant of the city is demolished, and easy for troops to be allowed in, but the only inhabitants are the sick, and the bridge between the two quadrants is broken.

      The locals are held away at a good distance, and avoided, though a few attempts to yell for a "local leader" are made.

      The army gets to work surrounding the area around the bridge, and fixing the thing to the extent that it's safe to carry the entire army over.

      They already have a local leader, the broken part is closer to the west side (by design), and Ithilien still has soldiers surrounding the east half of Osgiliath, and even if you were to slaughter every last one of them, all it would do is wear down your army's size.

      No shit they have a leader - why else would I want to talk to them?

      Doesn't mean I can't fix it.

      Again, this is a massive army. If your soldiers got in the way, you should've quite simply pointed it out. I was under the assumption that, since I'd made it quite clear they were moving through Ithilien, you were placing no resistance.

      They've been there most of the RP...

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      In the North, the other army can be just about seen from Cair Andros, moving more slowly than one would expect, but that is not to say they aren't moving without haste.

      Now, are you going to answer this or not?

      I was getting around to that.

      The approaching army can see soldiers on the walls. The gates are well secure, and above the two gates there appear to be cannon-like objects.

      (They're not quite cannons, they're something else)

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      In the North, the other army can be just about seen from Cair Andros, moving more slowly than one would expect, but that is not to say they aren't moving without haste.

      Now, are you going to answer this or not?

      I was getting around to that.

      The approaching army can see soldiers on the walls. The gates are well secure, and above the two gates there appear to be cannon-like objects.

      (They're not quite cannons, they're something else)

      They stay entirely out of range of any conventional weapons, except cannonry, and use their own cannonry to try and coax their enemy into marching towards them.

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

      There's no "want" about this.

      They find the east quadrant of the city is demolished, and easy for troops to be allowed in, but the only inhabitants are the sick, and the bridge between the two quadrants is broken.

      The locals are held away at a good distance, and avoided, though a few attempts to yell for a "local leader" are made.

      The army gets to work surrounding the area around the bridge, and fixing the thing to the extent that it's safe to carry the entire army over.

      They already have a local leader, the broken part is closer to the west side (by design), and Ithilien still has soldiers surrounding the east half of Osgiliath, and even if you were to slaughter every last one of them, all it would do is wear down your army's size.

      No shit they have a leader - why else would I want to talk to them?

      Doesn't mean I can't fix it.

      Again, this is a massive army. If your soldiers got in the way, you should've quite simply pointed it out. I was under the assumption that, since I'd made it quite clear they were moving through Ithilien, you were placing no resistance.

      They've been there most of the RP...

      As have the Ithilien soldiers in, you know, Ithilien.

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    • Suddenly, most of the Atmoran cavalry ride out of their camp, heading southwest around the Rammas. Where could they possibly be going?

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Aramirtheranger wrote: Virgil sends for Eradan and the lord of Anorien.

      Eradan reports back, having organized his soldiers in the defensive manner he wanted.

      "You summoned me?"

      Aramir?

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

      There's no "want" about this.

      They find the east quadrant of the city is demolished, and easy for troops to be allowed in, but the only inhabitants are the sick, and the bridge between the two quadrants is broken.

      The locals are held away at a good distance, and avoided, though a few attempts to yell for a "local leader" are made.

      The army gets to work surrounding the area around the bridge, and fixing the thing to the extent that it's safe to carry the entire army over.

      They already have a local leader, the broken part is closer to the west side (by design), and Ithilien still has soldiers surrounding the east half of Osgiliath, and even if you were to slaughter every last one of them, all it would do is wear down your army's size.

      No shit they have a leader - why else would I want to talk to them?

      Doesn't mean I can't fix it.

      Again, this is a massive army. If your soldiers got in the way, you should've quite simply pointed it out. I was under the assumption that, since I'd made it quite clear they were moving through Ithilien, you were placing no resistance.

      They've been there most of the RP...

      As have the Ithilien soldiers in, you know, Ithilien.

      The point aside is that to repair the bridge they'd have to go on the west side, the populated side, the side with all of the rebels, because Eradan specifically had the bridge broken so that the Star Dome would be on the east side if it ever came down to him capturing the part of Osgiliath he found useful.

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

      There's no "want" about this.

      They find the east quadrant of the city is demolished, and easy for troops to be allowed in, but the only inhabitants are the sick, and the bridge between the two quadrants is broken.

      The locals are held away at a good distance, and avoided, though a few attempts to yell for a "local leader" are made.

      The army gets to work surrounding the area around the bridge, and fixing the thing to the extent that it's safe to carry the entire army over.

      They already have a local leader, the broken part is closer to the west side (by design), and Ithilien still has soldiers surrounding the east half of Osgiliath, and even if you were to slaughter every last one of them, all it would do is wear down your army's size.

      No shit they have a leader - why else would I want to talk to them?

      Doesn't mean I can't fix it.

      Again, this is a massive army. If your soldiers got in the way, you should've quite simply pointed it out. I was under the assumption that, since I'd made it quite clear they were moving through Ithilien, you were placing no resistance.

      They've been there most of the RP...

      As have the Ithilien soldiers in, you know, Ithilien.

      The point aside is that to repair the bridge they'd have to go on the west side, the populated side, the side with all of the rebels, because Eradan specifically had the bridge broken so that the Star Dome would be on the east side if it ever came down to him capturing the part of Osgiliath he found useful.

      You remember how Caesar bridged the Rhine?

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Aramirtheranger wrote: Virgil sends for Eradan and the lord of Anorien.

      Eradan reports back, having organized his soldiers in the defensive manner he wanted.

      "You summoned me?"

      Aramir?

      "I'm sending Tacitus away with three quarters of my Tempestatii and half the cavalry. I've decided on a tactic we don't usually resort to, known as Contingency Order 37. We're going to send Ioreth a message saying that if the city does not surrender, we will destroy five royalist-controlled villages and all who dwell within. If she refuses, we do so and demand surrender again, adding that the cycle will repeat until either she does surrender or we run out of villages, at which point we move on to royalist towns, starting with the smallest and working our way upward to the actual cities. Some prominent inhabitants however, are captured and crucified where they can see them from the walls. Barbaric, I know, but war is cruelty and one cannot refine it. The crueler and more total it is the shorter it is. The message is already sent, and I'm simply waiting for a response."

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

      There's no "want" about this.

      They find the east quadrant of the city is demolished, and easy for troops to be allowed in, but the only inhabitants are the sick, and the bridge between the two quadrants is broken.

      The locals are held away at a good distance, and avoided, though a few attempts to yell for a "local leader" are made.

      The army gets to work surrounding the area around the bridge, and fixing the thing to the extent that it's safe to carry the entire army over.

      They already have a local leader, the broken part is closer to the west side (by design), and Ithilien still has soldiers surrounding the east half of Osgiliath, and even if you were to slaughter every last one of them, all it would do is wear down your army's size.

      No shit they have a leader - why else would I want to talk to them?

      Doesn't mean I can't fix it.

      Again, this is a massive army. If your soldiers got in the way, you should've quite simply pointed it out. I was under the assumption that, since I'd made it quite clear they were moving through Ithilien, you were placing no resistance.

      They've been there most of the RP...

      As have the Ithilien soldiers in, you know, Ithilien.

      The point aside is that to repair the bridge they'd have to go on the west side, the populated side, the side with all of the rebels, because Eradan specifically had the bridge broken so that the Star Dome would be on the east side if it ever came down to him capturing the part of Osgiliath he found useful.

      You remember how Caesar bridged the Rhine?

      They'd get to that side at one point or another.

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    • Aramirtheranger wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Aramirtheranger wrote: Virgil sends for Eradan and the lord of Anorien.

      Eradan reports back, having organized his soldiers in the defensive manner he wanted.

      "You summoned me?"

      Aramir?

      "I'm sending Tacitus away with three quarters of my Tempestatii and half the cavalry. I've decided on a tactic we don't usually resort to, known as Contingency Order 37. We're going to send Ioreth a message saying that if the city does not surrender, we will destroy five royalist-controlled villages and all who dwell within. If she refuses, we do so and demand surrender again, adding that the cycle will repeat until either she does surrender or we run out of villages, at which point we move on to royalist towns, starting with the smallest and working our way upward to the actual cities. Some prominent inhabitants however, are captured and crucified where they can see them from the walls. Barbaric, I know, but war is cruelty and one cannot refine it. The crueler and more total it is the shorter it is. The message is already sent, and I'm simply waiting for a response."

      "I always admired the merciless style of your people. If you ever need anything for the plan, I will be glad to help as I can."

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

      There's no "want" about this.

      They find the east quadrant of the city is demolished, and easy for troops to be allowed in, but the only inhabitants are the sick, and the bridge between the two quadrants is broken.

      The locals are held away at a good distance, and avoided, though a few attempts to yell for a "local leader" are made.

      The army gets to work surrounding the area around the bridge, and fixing the thing to the extent that it's safe to carry the entire army over.

      They already have a local leader, the broken part is closer to the west side (by design), and Ithilien still has soldiers surrounding the east half of Osgiliath, and even if you were to slaughter every last one of them, all it would do is wear down your army's size.

      No shit they have a leader - why else would I want to talk to them?

      Doesn't mean I can't fix it.

      Again, this is a massive army. If your soldiers got in the way, you should've quite simply pointed it out. I was under the assumption that, since I'd made it quite clear they were moving through Ithilien, you were placing no resistance.

      They've been there most of the RP...

      As have the Ithilien soldiers in, you know, Ithilien.

      The point aside is that to repair the bridge they'd have to go on the west side, the populated side, the side with all of the rebels, because Eradan specifically had the bridge broken so that the Star Dome would be on the east side if it ever came down to him capturing the part of Osgiliath he found useful.

      You remember how Caesar bridged the Rhine?

      They'd get to that side at one point or another.

      On this occasion, it was reversed, and his enemies were to the East, but nonetheless, any real presence there could've easily been destroyed. No less, he bridged it within ten days.

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    • What's the actual point of them rebuilding it? They're a rogue city and there's little use for you otherwise. I, on the other hand, would gain political advantages from rebuilding it.

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote: What's the actual point of them rebuilding it? They're a rogue city and there's little use for you otherwise. I, on the other hand, would gain political advantages from rebuilding it.

      The point is quite literally the same as Caesar, except this time we don't have the ships.

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    • So they randomly decide to build a bridge so that they can attack Osgiliath at some point or another, which, to the knowledge of that particular group, is still territory of the Crown. Am I understanding this wrong? I still don't see the benefit of this.

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote: So they randomly decide to build a bridge so that they can attack Osgiliath at some point or another, which, to the knowledge of that particular group, is still territory of the Crown. Am I understanding this wrong? I still don't see the benefit of this.

      They don't give a shite about Osgiliath. They're crossing the Anduin to get to Minas Tirith.

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    • Now I'm confused, what's their goal?

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote: Now I'm confused, what's their goal?

      They go to Minas Tirith, and then get orders to go to wherever they're needed.

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    • Okay...

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    • Aramirtheranger wrote:
      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:


      Aramirtheranger wrote: Virgil sends for Eradan and the lord of Anorien.

      Eradan reports back, having organized his soldiers in the defensive manner he wanted.

      "You summoned me?"

      Aramir?
      "I'm sending Tacitus away with three quarters of my Tempestatii and half the cavalry. I've decided on a tactic we don't usually resort to, known as Contingency Order 37. We're going to send Ioreth a message saying that if the city does not surrender, we will destroy five royalist-controlled villages and all who dwell within. If she refuses, we do so and demand surrender again, adding that the cycle will repeat until either she does surrender or we run out of villages, at which point we move on to royalist towns, starting with the smallest and working our way upward to the actual cities. Some prominent inhabitants however, are captured and crucified where they can see them from the walls. Barbaric, I know, but war is cruelty and one cannot refine it. The crueler and more total it is the shorter it is. The message is already sent, and I'm simply waiting for a response."

      (Did you see this Malta? The Atmorans sent a message threatening mass slaughter of civilians if Minas Tirith doesn't surrender!)

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    • Aramirtheranger wrote:

      Aramirtheranger wrote:
      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:


      Aramirtheranger wrote: Virgil sends for Eradan and the lord of Anorien.

      Eradan reports back, having organized his soldiers in the defensive manner he wanted.

      "You summoned me?"

      Aramir?
      "I'm sending Tacitus away with three quarters of my Tempestatii and half the cavalry. I've decided on a tactic we don't usually resort to, known as Contingency Order 37. We're going to send Ioreth a message saying that if the city does not surrender, we will destroy five royalist-controlled villages and all who dwell within. If she refuses, we do so and demand surrender again, adding that the cycle will repeat until either she does surrender or we run out of villages, at which point we move on to royalist towns, starting with the smallest and working our way upward to the actual cities. Some prominent inhabitants however, are captured and crucified where they can see them from the walls. Barbaric, I know, but war is cruelty and one cannot refine it. The crueler and more total it is the shorter it is. The message is already sent, and I'm simply waiting for a response."

      (Did you see this Malta? The Atmorans sent a message threatening mass slaughter of civilians if Minas Tirith doesn't surrender!)

      Yeah, which was ignored.

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Aramirtheranger wrote:

      Aramirtheranger wrote:
      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:


      Aramirtheranger wrote: Virgil sends for Eradan and the lord of Anorien.

      Eradan reports back, having organized his soldiers in the defensive manner he wanted.

      "You summoned me?"

      Aramir?
      "I'm sending Tacitus away with three quarters of my Tempestatii and half the cavalry. I've decided on a tactic we don't usually resort to, known as Contingency Order 37. We're going to send Ioreth a message saying that if the city does not surrender, we will destroy five royalist-controlled villages and all who dwell within. If she refuses, we do so and demand surrender again, adding that the cycle will repeat until either she does surrender or we run out of villages, at which point we move on to royalist towns, starting with the smallest and working our way upward to the actual cities. Some prominent inhabitants however, are captured and crucified where they can see them from the walls. Barbaric, I know, but war is cruelty and one cannot refine it. The crueler and more total it is the shorter it is. The message is already sent, and I'm simply waiting for a response."
      (Did you see this Malta? The Atmorans sent a message threatening mass slaughter of civilians if Minas Tirith doesn't surrender!)
      Yeah, which was ignored.

      It's a good thing Gondor isn't elective cause, RIP your approval ratings xD

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Aramirtheranger wrote:

      Aramirtheranger wrote:
      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:


      Aramirtheranger wrote: Virgil sends for Eradan and the lord of Anorien.

      Eradan reports back, having organized his soldiers in the defensive manner he wanted.

      "You summoned me?"

      Aramir?
      "I'm sending Tacitus away with three quarters of my Tempestatii and half the cavalry. I've decided on a tactic we don't usually resort to, known as Contingency Order 37. We're going to send Ioreth a message saying that if the city does not surrender, we will destroy five royalist-controlled villages and all who dwell within. If she refuses, we do so and demand surrender again, adding that the cycle will repeat until either she does surrender or we run out of villages, at which point we move on to royalist towns, starting with the smallest and working our way upward to the actual cities. Some prominent inhabitants however, are captured and crucified where they can see them from the walls. Barbaric, I know, but war is cruelty and one cannot refine it. The crueler and more total it is the shorter it is. The message is already sent, and I'm simply waiting for a response."
      (Did you see this Malta? The Atmorans sent a message threatening mass slaughter of civilians if Minas Tirith doesn't surrender!)
      Yeah, which was ignored.

      It's a good thing Gondor isn't elective cause, RIP your approval ratings xD

      Not necessarily. At the same time, the rebels are now going around sanctioning the murder of citizens. Me refusing to surrender to such threats is akin to refusing to surrender the citizenry to such an enemy, in a way.

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Aramirtheranger wrote:


      Aramirtheranger wrote:
      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:



      Aramirtheranger wrote: Virgil sends for Eradan and the lord of Anorien.

      Eradan reports back, having organized his soldiers in the defensive manner he wanted.

      "You summoned me?"

      Aramir?
      "I'm sending Tacitus away with three quarters of my Tempestatii and half the cavalry. I've decided on a tactic we don't usually resort to, known as Contingency Order 37. We're going to send Ioreth a message saying that if the city does not surrender, we will destroy five royalist-controlled villages and all who dwell within. If she refuses, we do so and demand surrender again, adding that the cycle will repeat until either she does surrender or we run out of villages, at which point we move on to royalist towns, starting with the smallest and working our way upward to the actual cities. Some prominent inhabitants however, are captured and crucified where they can see them from the walls. Barbaric, I know, but war is cruelty and one cannot refine it. The crueler and more total it is the shorter it is. The message is already sent, and I'm simply waiting for a response."
      (Did you see this Malta? The Atmorans sent a message threatening mass slaughter of civilians if Minas Tirith doesn't surrender!)
      Yeah, which was ignored.
      It's a good thing Gondor isn't elective cause, RIP your approval ratings xD
      Not necessarily. At the same time, the rebels are now going around sanctioning the murder of citizens. Me refusing to surrender to such threats is akin to refusing to surrender the citizenry to such an enemy, in a way.

      People tend to look at it from a more selfish point of view of, "SURRENDER SO I CAN LIVE"

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Aramirtheranger wrote:


      Aramirtheranger wrote:
      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:



      Aramirtheranger wrote: Virgil sends for Eradan and the lord of Anorien.

      Eradan reports back, having organized his soldiers in the defensive manner he wanted.

      "You summoned me?"

      Aramir?
      "I'm sending Tacitus away with three quarters of my Tempestatii and half the cavalry. I've decided on a tactic we don't usually resort to, known as Contingency Order 37. We're going to send Ioreth a message saying that if the city does not surrender, we will destroy five royalist-controlled villages and all who dwell within. If she refuses, we do so and demand surrender again, adding that the cycle will repeat until either she does surrender or we run out of villages, at which point we move on to royalist towns, starting with the smallest and working our way upward to the actual cities. Some prominent inhabitants however, are captured and crucified where they can see them from the walls. Barbaric, I know, but war is cruelty and one cannot refine it. The crueler and more total it is the shorter it is. The message is already sent, and I'm simply waiting for a response."
      (Did you see this Malta? The Atmorans sent a message threatening mass slaughter of civilians if Minas Tirith doesn't surrender!)
      Yeah, which was ignored.
      It's a good thing Gondor isn't elective cause, RIP your approval ratings xD
      Not necessarily. At the same time, the rebels are now going around sanctioning the murder of citizens. Me refusing to surrender to such threats is akin to refusing to surrender the citizenry to such an enemy, in a way.

      People tend to look at it from a more selfish point of view of, "SURRENDER SO I CAN LIVE"

      France hasn't surrendered to Daesh yet. It's all a matter of perspective and who's in power.

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    • PAT YOU ABSOLUTE BASTARD, IF YOU WANT THE RP TO MOVE FORTH, TELL US WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH THE WALL, IVE WAITED TOO LONG AT THOS POINT

      Shieldberers and heavily armored troops comprise the ladder vanguard, archers and crossbowers provide covering fire for any attempts to disrupt the ladders. Calvary dressed as loyalist reinforcements are coming from the other side of the wall. Now what?

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    • Pane rides for the Atmoran forces, at top speed as soon as he hears word of the plans. Arriving at camp and furiously demanding to see the leader

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    • (Shade, chill. What do you want me to resolve, specifically?)

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      In the North, the other army can be just about seen from Cair Andros, moving more slowly than one would expect, but that is not to say they aren't moving without haste.

      Now, are you going to answer this or not?

      I was getting around to that.

      The approaching army can see soldiers on the walls. The gates are well secure, and above the two gates there appear to be cannon-like objects.

      (They're not quite cannons, they're something else)

      They stay entirely out of range of any conventional weapons, except cannonry, and use their own cannonry to try and coax their enemy into marching towards them.

      The soldiers stand their ground, and minimize casualties by fleeing cannon impact points.

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      In the North, the other army can be just about seen from Cair Andros, moving more slowly than one would expect, but that is not to say they aren't moving without haste.

      Now, are you going to answer this or not?

      I was getting around to that.

      The approaching army can see soldiers on the walls. The gates are well secure, and above the two gates there appear to be cannon-like objects.

      (They're not quite cannons, they're something else)

      They stay entirely out of range of any conventional weapons, except cannonry, and use their own cannonry to try and coax their enemy into marching towards them.

      The soldiers stand their ground, and minimize casualties by fleeing cannon impact points.

      The cannons just start to try and batter down the walls, rather than attacking any particular soldiers.

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

      There's no "want" about this.
      They find the east quadrant of the city is demolished, and easy for troops to be allowed in, but the only inhabitants are the sick, and the bridge between the two quadrants is broken.
      The locals are held away at a good distance, and avoided, though a few attempts to yell for a "local leader" are made.

      The army gets to work surrounding the area around the bridge, and fixing the thing to the extent that it's safe to carry the entire army over.

      The work goes quickly, and soon, the bridge is built. 

      Whoa, whoa, I didn't get a chance to respond! Give me a sec.

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: An ambassador approaches the borders of Osgiliath upon this news. They have their mouths covered, but they have agreed to remain in the city to keep the plague from spreading to the other men of Ithilien.

      They are brought through the city to the center square. Rubble and burned wood is everywhere, and workers still slave in the streets. But there's a difference. No dead lie in the corners. The light has returned to the people's eyes. Eventually they are brought to the center of the square where an old man is sitting in a chair with several masked mercenaries around him.

      "We come on behalf of Lord Eradan II of Ithilien, under authority of he and our general. He offers you alliance and aid. He offers to reverse the damages caused at the hands of Ithilien now that we fight for a similar cause. If it be your wish, the garrison surrounding the eastern half of the city would relocate on the condition that you accept the offered alliance, as there would no longer be a reason to keep enemy soldiers or ailed individuals from leaving the city. Half of them would be relocated to defensive positions throughout the realm of Eradan, the other would be placed outside of West Osgiliath as reinforcements against potential loyalist armies. The only condition he has established is that you continue your efforts to contain the plague to the point of rarity if any occurence at all. What might I tell my general?"

      The old man eyes him carefully, then pulls himself up. "I think you can tell your general that would be delightful."

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

      There's no "want" about this.

      They find the east quadrant of the city is demolished, and easy for troops to be allowed in, but the only inhabitants are the sick, and the bridge between the two quadrants is broken.

      The locals are held away at a good distance, and avoided, though a few attempts to yell for a "local leader" are made.

      The army gets to work surrounding the area around the bridge, and fixing the thing to the extent that it's safe to carry the entire army over.

      For the sake of clarity for you response can you give Jc ore detail into how they're rebuilding? Similar to Caesar's Rhine bridges right?

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    • ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

      There's no "want" about this.

      They find the east quadrant of the city is demolished, and easy for troops to be allowed in, but the only inhabitants are the sick, and the bridge between the two quadrants is broken.

      The locals are held away at a good distance, and avoided, though a few attempts to yell for a "local leader" are made.

      The army gets to work surrounding the area around the bridge, and fixing the thing to the extent that it's safe to carry the entire army over.

      For the sake of clarity for you response can you give Jc ore detail into how they're rebuilding? Similar to Caesar's Rhine bridges right?

      Pretty much identical.

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

      There's no "want" about this.

      They find the east quadrant of the city is demolished, and easy for troops to be allowed in, but the only inhabitants are the sick, and the bridge between the two quadrants is broken.

      The locals are held away at a good distance, and avoided, though a few attempts to yell for a "local leader" are made.

      The army gets to work surrounding the area around the bridge, and fixing the thing to the extent that it's safe to carry the entire army over.

      For the sake of clarity for you response can you give Jc ore detail into how they're rebuilding? Similar to Caesar's Rhine bridges right?

      Pretty much identical.

      Okay. At first they're efforts are unhindered, but one night as things are progressing, well, clumps of arrows take out any guards or remaining workers near the bridge. And it's lit on fire.

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    • ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

      There's no "want" about this.

      They find the east quadrant of the city is demolished, and easy for troops to be allowed in, but the only inhabitants are the sick, and the bridge between the two quadrants is broken.

      The locals are held away at a good distance, and avoided, though a few attempts to yell for a "local leader" are made.

      The army gets to work surrounding the area around the bridge, and fixing the thing to the extent that it's safe to carry the entire army over.

      For the sake of clarity for you response can you give Jc ore detail into how they're rebuilding? Similar to Caesar's Rhine bridges right?

      Pretty much identical.

      Okay. At first they're efforts are unhindered, but one night as things are progressing, well, clumps of arrows take out any guards or remaining workers near the bridge. And it's lit on fire.

      There are guard towers supervising the efforts to build it, and this is an entire army we're talking about.

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    • ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

      There's no "want" about this.

      They find the east quadrant of the city is demolished, and easy for troops to be allowed in, but the only inhabitants are the sick, and the bridge between the two quadrants is broken.

      The locals are held away at a good distance, and avoided, though a few attempts to yell for a "local leader" are made.

      The army gets to work surrounding the area around the bridge, and fixing the thing to the extent that it's safe to carry the entire army over.

      For the sake of clarity for you response can you give Jc ore detail into how they're rebuilding? Similar to Caesar's Rhine bridges right?

      Pretty much identical.

      Okay. At first they're efforts are unhindered, but one night as things are progressing, well, clumps of arrows take out any guards or remaining workers near the bridge. And it's lit on fire.

      On the same night, the army designed to keep loyalist Osgiliath at bay traps the enemy soldiers within the bounds of the city.

      (Really, the only reason I did this is to show that they're still around, they might've just been near old Minas Morgul when that royal army arrived, or something similar. To tell you the truth I never brought them up because I never expected them to go through Osgiliath.)

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    • ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: An ambassador approaches the borders of Osgiliath upon this news. They have their mouths covered, but they have agreed to remain in the city to keep the plague from spreading to the other men of Ithilien.

      They are brought through the city to the center square. Rubble and burned wood is everywhere, and workers still slave in the streets. But there's a difference. No dead lie in the corners. The light has returned to the people's eyes. Eventually they are brought to the center of the square where an old man is sitting in a chair with several masked mercenaries around him.

      "We come on behalf of Lord Eradan II of Ithilien, under authority of he and our general. He offers you alliance and aid. He offers to reverse the damages caused at the hands of Ithilien now that we fight for a similar cause. If it be your wish, the garrison surrounding the eastern half of the city would relocate on the condition that you accept the offered alliance, as there would no longer be a reason to keep enemy soldiers or ailed individuals from leaving the city. Half of them would be relocated to defensive positions throughout the realm of Eradan, the other would be placed outside of West Osgiliath as reinforcements against potential loyalist armies. The only condition he has established is that you continue your efforts to contain the plague to the point of rarity if any occurence at all. What might I tell my general?"

      The old man eyes him carefully, then pulls himself up. "I think you can tell your general that would be delightful."

      "Excellent. My general will be most pleased, yet incomparably when compared to Lord Eradan."

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      In the North, the other army can be just about seen from Cair Andros, moving more slowly than one would expect, but that is not to say they aren't moving without haste.

      Now, are you going to answer this or not?

      I was getting around to that.

      The approaching army can see soldiers on the walls. The gates are well secure, and above the two gates there appear to be cannon-like objects.

      (They're not quite cannons, they're something else)

      They stay entirely out of range of any conventional weapons, except cannonry, and use their own cannonry to try and coax their enemy into marching towards them.

      The soldiers stand their ground, and minimize casualties by fleeing cannon impact points.

      The cannons just start to try and batter down the walls, rather than attacking any particular soldiers.

      They start moving off the walls and hauling the canon-like device off of the wall.


      "Sergeant! Get that projector off the wall, and load some of its ammunition into that catapult. We're going to have to do this the hard way."

      "But Captain Turgon, our supply of ammunition is limited, the projector could be rendered useless, and we still have another month before Dorwinion considers trading us priceless weapons again!"

      "That was an order, Sergeant Adrahil, not a request. They refuse to come within bow range, and still beyond that of the projector. The catapult is the only way. We shall give them a treat from Dorwinion so great they will forget they ever made wine."

      "Yes Captain Turgon, as you wish. Take down the projector, load the catapult!"

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      In the North, the other army can be just about seen from Cair Andros, moving more slowly than one would expect, but that is not to say they aren't moving without haste.

      Now, are you going to answer this or not?

      I was getting around to that.

      The approaching army can see soldiers on the walls. The gates are well secure, and above the two gates there appear to be cannon-like objects.

      (They're not quite cannons, they're something else)

      They stay entirely out of range of any conventional weapons, except cannonry, and use their own cannonry to try and coax their enemy into marching towards them.

      The soldiers stand their ground, and minimize casualties by fleeing cannon impact points.

      The cannons just start to try and batter down the walls, rather than attacking any particular soldiers.

      They start moving off the walls and hauling the canon-like device off of the wall.


      "Sergeant! Get that projector off the wall, and load some of its ammunition into that catapult. We're going to have to do this the hard way."

      "But Captain Turgon, our supply of ammunition is limited, the projector could be rendered useless, and we still have another month before Dorwinion considers trading us priceless weapons again!"

      "That was an order, Sergeant Adrahil, not a request. They refuse to come within bow range, and still beyond that of the projector. The catapult is the only way. We shall give them a treat from Dorwinion so great they will forget they ever made wine."

      "Yes Captain Turgon, as you wish. Take down the projector, load the catapult!"

      The army just keeps up the bombardment, with the intention of causing the collapse of the walls around the main gate.

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: Osgiliath just broke away, I doubt they'd want the royal armies there.

      There's no "want" about this.

      They find the east quadrant of the city is demolished, and easy for troops to be allowed in, but the only inhabitants are the sick, and the bridge between the two quadrants is broken.

      The locals are held away at a good distance, and avoided, though a few attempts to yell for a "local leader" are made.

      The army gets to work surrounding the area around the bridge, and fixing the thing to the extent that it's safe to carry the entire army over.

      For the sake of clarity for you response can you give Jc ore detail into how they're rebuilding? Similar to Caesar's Rhine bridges right?

      Pretty much identical.

      Okay. At first they're efforts are unhindered, but one night as things are progressing, well, clumps of arrows take out any guards or remaining workers near the bridge. And it's lit on fire.

      On the same night, the army designed to keep loyalist Osgiliath at bay traps the enemy soldiers within the bounds of the city.

      (Really, the only reason I did this is to show that they're still around, they might've just been near old Minas Morgul when that royal army arrived, or something similar. To tell you the truth I never brought them up because I never expected them to go through Osgiliath.)

      The army arranges itself into one large area, with a medium-sized (for the army) encampment in the centre, surrounding the west side of the bridge, which is, itself, still under repairs. The bridge, while damaged, was still largely still intact - supports, etc. - in terms of what was required to rebuild, at least in a sense of being enough to get an army across it, and not necessarily stay up, it's not a whole lot.

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    • After the burning incidents any builders or soldiers get feathered wing arrows from archers inside the rubble of the city.

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      In the North, the other army can be just about seen from Cair Andros, moving more slowly than one would expect, but that is not to say they aren't moving without haste.

      Now, are you going to answer this or not?

      I was getting around to that.

      The approaching army can see soldiers on the walls. The gates are well secure, and above the two gates there appear to be cannon-like objects.

      (They're not quite cannons, they're something else)

      They stay entirely out of range of any conventional weapons, except cannonry, and use their own cannonry to try and coax their enemy into marching towards them.

      The soldiers stand their ground, and minimize casualties by fleeing cannon impact points.

      The cannons just start to try and batter down the walls, rather than attacking any particular soldiers.

      They start moving off the walls and hauling the canon-like device off of the wall.


      "Sergeant! Get that projector off the wall, and load some of its ammunition into that catapult. We're going to have to do this the hard way."

      "But Captain Turgon, our supply of ammunition is limited, the projector could be rendered useless, and we still have another month before Dorwinion considers trading us priceless weapons again!"

      "That was an order, Sergeant Adrahil, not a request. They refuse to come within bow range, and still beyond that of the projector. The catapult is the only way. We shall give them a treat from Dorwinion so great they will forget they ever made wine."

      "Yes Captain Turgon, as you wish. Take down the projector, load the catapult!"

      The army just keeps up the bombardment, with the intention of causing the collapse of the walls around the main gate.

      Suddenly, from behind the walls, a projectile flies upwards in their direction. It appears to be multiple containers in a Dorwinion style loosely kept together by ropes (which they are attached to to prevent strays from falling off). Only too late would any of the learned men among the force be able to realize the terror that had been unleashed upon them. When the projectile hits, a great and volatile flame bursts at an instant, spreading quickly across the men. Thus they behold the terrible Dorwinian Fire.


      "Is the catapult ready?"

      "Sir, yes sir!"

      "Then may the Valar guide us to victory. Release the Flame of Dorwinion!"

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    • I want you to resolve the battle, so the rest of us can do things other than waiting at the Rammas

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:


      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Aramirtheranger wrote:



      Aramirtheranger wrote:
      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:




      Aramirtheranger wrote: Virgil sends for Eradan and the lord of Anorien.

      Eradan reports back, having organized his soldiers in the defensive manner he wanted.

      "You summoned me?"

      Aramir?
      "I'm sending Tacitus away with three quarters of my Tempestatii and half the cavalry. I've decided on a tactic we don't usually resort to, known as Contingency Order 37. We're going to send Ioreth a message saying that if the city does not surrender, we will destroy five royalist-controlled villages and all who dwell within. If she refuses, we do so and demand surrender again, adding that the cycle will repeat until either she does surrender or we run out of villages, at which point we move on to royalist towns, starting with the smallest and working our way upward to the actual cities. Some prominent inhabitants however, are captured and crucified where they can see them from the walls. Barbaric, I know, but war is cruelty and one cannot refine it. The crueler and more total it is the shorter it is. The message is already sent, and I'm simply waiting for a response."
      (Did you see this Malta? The Atmorans sent a message threatening mass slaughter of civilians if Minas Tirith doesn't surrender!)
      Yeah, which was ignored.
      It's a good thing Gondor isn't elective cause, RIP your approval ratings xD
      Not necessarily. At the same time, the rebels are now going around sanctioning the murder of citizens. Me refusing to surrender to such threats is akin to refusing to surrender the citizenry to such an enemy, in a way.

      In that case they slaughter five villages, rinse and repeat until they either get a positive response or run out of Gondorians. They also add a condition for the inhabitants: you can protect yourself and the children if you fight for them. The offer is extended to everyone, regardless of age or gender. Anyone who accepts (probably a lot) is brought back to the Atmoran camp. They cease this behavior after they have two for each soldier.

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    • Ye i'm just waiting on the Rammas results

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    • ChazmanianDevil wrote: After the burning incidents any builders or soldiers get feathered wing arrows from archers inside the rubble of the city.

      And again, it's a whole army. They just keep anyone at a distance.

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    • TheShade6 wrote: PAT YOU ABSOLUTE BASTARD, IF YOU WANT THE RP TO MOVE FORTH, TELL US WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH THE WALL, IVE WAITED TOO LONG AT THOS POINT

      Shieldberers and heavily armored troops comprise the ladder vanguard, archers and crossbowers provide covering fire for any attempts to disrupt the ladders. Calvary dressed as loyalist reinforcements are coming from the other side of the wall. Now what?

      Maybe Heart should reply to the Ramas Situation? She's in charge of the defense.

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    • Maybe she should reply to the fact that she just got fire bombed.

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    • Patrick. Maybe you should make a rule about responding to attacks, so that things aren't stalled, y'know like I accidently did (Sorry again) like 48 hours or something. But anyways

      Heart you need to respond to Morgul's firebomb and the Rammas attack I believe. 

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      In the North, the other army can be just about seen from Cair Andros, moving more slowly than one would expect, but that is not to say they aren't moving without haste.

      Now, are you going to answer this or not?

      I was getting around to that.

      The approaching army can see soldiers on the walls. The gates are well secure, and above the two gates there appear to be cannon-like objects.

      (They're not quite cannons, they're something else)

      They stay entirely out of range of any conventional weapons, except cannonry, and use their own cannonry to try and coax their enemy into marching towards them.

      The soldiers stand their ground, and minimize casualties by fleeing cannon impact points.

      The cannons just start to try and batter down the walls, rather than attacking any particular soldiers.

      They start moving off the walls and hauling the canon-like device off of the wall.


      "Sergeant! Get that projector off the wall, and load some of its ammunition into that catapult. We're going to have to do this the hard way."

      "But Captain Turgon, our supply of ammunition is limited, the projector could be rendered useless, and we still have another month before Dorwinion considers trading us priceless weapons again!"

      "That was an order, Sergeant Adrahil, not a request. They refuse to come within bow range, and still beyond that of the projector. The catapult is the only way. We shall give them a treat from Dorwinion so great they will forget they ever made wine."

      "Yes Captain Turgon, as you wish. Take down the projector, load the catapult!"

      The army just keeps up the bombardment, with the intention of causing the collapse of the walls around the main gate.

      Suddenly, from behind the walls, a projectile flies upwards in their direction. It appears to be multiple containers in a Dorwinion style loosely kept together by ropes (which they are attached to to prevent strays from falling off). Only too late would any of the learned men among the force be able to realize the terror that had been unleashed upon them. When the projectile hits, a great and volatile flame bursts at an instant, spreading quickly across the men. Thus they behold the terrible Dorwinian Fire.


      "Is the catapult ready?"

      "Sir, yes sir!"

      "Then may the Valar guide us to victory. Release the Flame of Dorwinion!"

      The cannons turn slightly to all concentrate on the area of wall directoy beneath the catapult, which is beginning to become (much, Patrick?) weaker under the sustained fire.

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote: PAT YOU ABSOLUTE BASTARD, IF YOU WANT THE RP TO MOVE FORTH, TELL US WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH THE WALL, IVE WAITED TOO LONG AT THOS POINT

      Shieldberers and heavily armored troops comprise the ladder vanguard, archers and crossbowers provide covering fire for any attempts to disrupt the ladders. Calvary dressed as loyalist reinforcements are coming from the other side of the wall. Now what?

      Maybe Heart should reply to the Ramas Situation? She's in charge of the defense.

      There's some random army that's managed to teleport through the wall. Otherwise, I'm fairly sure you're supposed to be declaring some of the outcomes of the actual battle that's going on.

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    • TheShade6 wrote: Pane rides for the Atmoran forces, at top speed as soon as he hears word of the plans. Arriving at camp and furiously demanding to see the leader

      @aramir

      Before the slaughter

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Patrick.vtap wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote: PAT YOU ABSOLUTE BASTARD, IF YOU WANT THE RP TO MOVE FORTH, TELL US WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH THE WALL, IVE WAITED TOO LONG AT THOS POINT

      Shieldberers and heavily armored troops comprise the ladder vanguard, archers and crossbowers provide covering fire for any attempts to disrupt the ladders. Calvary dressed as loyalist reinforcements are coming from the other side of the wall. Now what?

      Maybe Heart should reply to the Ramas Situation? She's in charge of the defense.
      There's some random army that's managed to teleport through the wall. Otherwise, I'm fairly sure you're supposed to be declaring some of the outcomes of the actual battle that's going on.

      I guess we're waitin' on you St. Patty

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Patrick.vtap wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote: PAT YOU ABSOLUTE BASTARD, IF YOU WANT THE RP TO MOVE FORTH, TELL US WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH THE WALL, IVE WAITED TOO LONG AT THOS POINT

      Shieldberers and heavily armored troops comprise the ladder vanguard, archers and crossbowers provide covering fire for any attempts to disrupt the ladders. Calvary dressed as loyalist reinforcements are coming from the other side of the wall. Now what?

      Maybe Heart should reply to the Ramas Situation? She's in charge of the defense.

      There's some random army that's managed to teleport through the wall. Otherwise, I'm fairly sure you're supposed to be declaring some of the outcomes of the actual battle that's going on.

      The soldiers raise their shields to guard against the arrow-fire, and wait for the ladders to be raised so that they can attack them. The cavalry are met by a group of spearmen at the breach in the Gates.

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      In the North, the other army can be just about seen from Cair Andros, moving more slowly than one would expect, but that is not to say they aren't moving without haste.

      Now, are you going to answer this or not?

      I was getting around to that.

      The approaching army can see soldiers on the walls. The gates are well secure, and above the two gates there appear to be cannon-like objects.

      (They're not quite cannons, they're something else)

      They stay entirely out of range of any conventional weapons, except cannonry, and use their own cannonry to try and coax their enemy into marching towards them.

      The soldiers stand their ground, and minimize casualties by fleeing cannon impact points.

      The cannons just start to try and batter down the walls, rather than attacking any particular soldiers.

      They start moving off the walls and hauling the canon-like device off of the wall.


      "Sergeant! Get that projector off the wall, and load some of its ammunition into that catapult. We're going to have to do this the hard way."

      "But Captain Turgon, our supply of ammunition is limited, the projector could be rendered useless, and we still have another month before Dorwinion considers trading us priceless weapons again!"

      "That was an order, Sergeant Adrahil, not a request. They refuse to come within bow range, and still beyond that of the projector. The catapult is the only way. We shall give them a treat from Dorwinion so great they will forget they ever made wine."

      "Yes Captain Turgon, as you wish. Take down the projector, load the catapult!"

      The army just keeps up the bombardment, with the intention of causing the collapse of the walls around the main gate.

      Suddenly, from behind the walls, a projectile flies upwards in their direction. It appears to be multiple containers in a Dorwinion style loosely kept together by ropes (which they are attached to to prevent strays from falling off). Only too late would any of the learned men among the force be able to realize the terror that had been unleashed upon them. When the projectile hits, a great and volatile flame bursts at an instant, spreading quickly across the men. Thus they behold the terrible Dorwinian Fire.


      "Is the catapult ready?"

      "Sir, yes sir!"

      "Then may the Valar guide us to victory. Release the Flame of Dorwinion!"

      The cannons turn slightly to all concentrate on the area of wall directoy beneath the catapult, which is beginning to become (much, Patrick?) weaker under the sustained fire.

      Behind the wall.

      @Pat: How effective was the "Greek Fire" attack?

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    • Eradan sits horseback on the edge of the camp. He looks northeast and sees the rising smoke of the Dorwinion fire. He then returns to the camp when he is informed of the man who wants to see the Atmorans.

      Around that time, the royal family is snuck out of Cair Andros through tunnels, and they secretly enter the forest out of sight of the attacking army, making their way to Henneth Annûn, the secret hideout long forgotten by all save the elite of Ithilien.

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    • I'm having a hard time believing that the men of the Rammas are surviving attacks from 15,000 men from behind the gate. And 17,000 men from the outside. But regardless.

      The archers fire at whoever tries to man the cannon their secondary target being whoever nears the ladders. The laddermen continue spreading out to halt the effectiveness of the cannons, Shieldmen being upfront 

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

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      In the North, the other army can be just about seen from Cair Andros, moving more slowly than one would expect, but that is not to say they aren't moving without haste.

      Now, are you going to answer this or not?

      I was getting around to that.

      The approaching army can see soldiers on the walls. The gates are well secure, and above the two gates there appear to be cannon-like objects.

      (They're not quite cannons, they're something else)

      They stay entirely out of range of any conventional weapons, except cannonry, and use their own cannonry to try and coax their enemy into marching towards them.

      The soldiers stand their ground, and minimize casualties by fleeing cannon impact points.

      The cannons just start to try and batter down the walls, rather than attacking any particular soldiers.

      They start moving off the walls and hauling the canon-like device off of the wall.


      "Sergeant! Get that projector off the wall, and load some of its ammunition into that catapult. We're going to have to do this the hard way."

      "But Captain Turgon, our supply of ammunition is limited, the projector could be rendered useless, and we still have another month before Dorwinion considers trading us priceless weapons again!"

      "That was an order, Sergeant Adrahil, not a request. They refuse to come within bow range, and still beyond that of the projector. The catapult is the only way. We shall give them a treat from Dorwinion so great they will forget they ever made wine."

      "Yes Captain Turgon, as you wish. Take down the projector, load the catapult!"

      The army just keeps up the bombardment, with the intention of causing the collapse of the walls around the main gate.

      Suddenly, from behind the walls, a projectile flies upwards in their direction. It appears to be multiple containers in a Dorwinion style loosely kept together by ropes (which they are attached to to prevent strays from falling off). Only too late would any of the learned men among the force be able to realize the terror that had been unleashed upon them. When the projectile hits, a great and volatile flame bursts at an instant, spreading quickly across the men. Thus they behold the terrible Dorwinian Fire.


      "Is the catapult ready?"

      "Sir, yes sir!"

      "Then may the Valar guide us to victory. Release the Flame of Dorwinion!"

      The cannons turn slightly to all concentrate on the area of wall directoy beneath the catapult, which is beginning to become (much, Patrick?) weaker under the sustained fire.

      Behind the wall.

      @Pat: How effective was the "Greek Fire" attack?

      Then you're blind firing over quite vast distances...

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote: I'm having a hard time believing that the men of the Rammas are surviving attacks from 15,000 men from behind the gate. And 17,000 men from the outside. But regardless.

      The archers fire at whoever tries to man the cannon their secondary target being whoever nears the ladders. The laddermen continue spreading out to halt the effectiveness of the cannons, Shieldmen being upfront 

      So not only did you try and claim they teleported inside, now they've suddenly all teleported up to the gate? sigh

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      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

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      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      In the North, the other army can be just about seen from Cair Andros, moving more slowly than one would expect, but that is not to say they aren't moving without haste.

      Now, are you going to answer this or not?

      I was getting around to that.

      The approaching army can see soldiers on the walls. The gates are well secure, and above the two gates there appear to be cannon-like objects.

      (They're not quite cannons, they're something else)

      They stay entirely out of range of any conventional weapons, except cannonry, and use their own cannonry to try and coax their enemy into marching towards them.

      The soldiers stand their ground, and minimize casualties by fleeing cannon impact points.

      The cannons just start to try and batter down the walls, rather than attacking any particular soldiers.

      They start moving off the walls and hauling the canon-like device off of the wall.


      "Sergeant! Get that projector off the wall, and load some of its ammunition into that catapult. We're going to have to do this the hard way."

      "But Captain Turgon, our supply of ammunition is limited, the projector could be rendered useless, and we still have another month before Dorwinion considers trading us priceless weapons again!"

      "That was an order, Sergeant Adrahil, not a request. They refuse to come within bow range, and still beyond that of the projector. The catapult is the only way. We shall give them a treat from Dorwinion so great they will forget they ever made wine."

      "Yes Captain Turgon, as you wish. Take down the projector, load the catapult!"

      The army just keeps up the bombardment, with the intention of causing the collapse of the walls around the main gate.

      Suddenly, from behind the walls, a projectile flies upwards in their direction. It appears to be multiple containers in a Dorwinion style loosely kept together by ropes (which they are attached to to prevent strays from falling off). Only too late would any of the learned men among the force be able to realize the terror that had been unleashed upon them. When the projectile hits, a great and volatile flame bursts at an instant, spreading quickly across the men. Thus they behold the terrible Dorwinian Fire.


      "Is the catapult ready?"

      "Sir, yes sir!"

      "Then may the Valar guide us to victory. Release the Flame of Dorwinion!"

      The cannons turn slightly to all concentrate on the area of wall directoy beneath the catapult, which is beginning to become (much, Patrick?) weaker under the sustained fire.

      Behind the wall.

      @Pat: How effective was the "Greek Fire" attack?

      Then you're blind firing over quite vast distances...

      The catapult was a fail safe placed as close as to the wall as possible to allow firing, not to mention that the men firing it would have a good idea of where everything is outside to get it pretty close.

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote: After the burning incidents any builders or soldiers get feathered wing arrows from archers inside the rubble of the city.

      And again, it's a whole army. They just keep anyone at a distance.

      Heart that's not how it works. Any builders will be completely exposed to archers from the West Bank. Rebuilding a bridge in the middle of the Anduin would be hard enough without constant attack.

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    • Meanwhile on Tolfalas...

      The loosely populated island of Pelargirian military outposts and small cities. Not only is it filled to the rink with members of the Royal Navy, but also Pelargirian loyalists, (including those who escaped the city), sellswords, troops from Salumn, and it's about to get more crowded. Inside the simpler halls, the Sealord turns to Zarrun. "I need you to activate some of your contacts. Get a good collection of loyalists out of Umbar, as well as any pirates or mercenaries. Only as much as is possible without being noticed however. The rest need to stay hidden until the time comes to retake Umbar. The situation has changed drastically. Herendil and his men disregarded our plan and attacked Mina's Tirith with Anfalas and Anorien. The steward has taken Pelargir. The king is dead, Ioreth rules in his place. And most importantly Cirion and the Old Man have taken Osgiliath and the Anduin mouth for us. We have ten days until we sail."

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    • "The city is being closely watched, my informants tell me. There will be little way to get out."

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote: I'm having a hard time believing that the men of the Rammas are surviving attacks from 15,000 men from behind the gate. And 17,000 men from the outside. But regardless.

      The archers fire at whoever tries to man the cannon their secondary target being whoever nears the ladders. The laddermen continue spreading out to halt the effectiveness of the cannons, Shieldmen being upfront 

      So not only did you try and claim they teleported inside, now they've suddenly all teleported up to the gate? sigh

      They came in from THE GIANT HOLE IN THE RAMMAS ECHOR. And you don't siege without ladders. So. 

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    • Heart, try as you might to make this harder on us, it's the wall guard, which is somewhat sparse and not nearly as heavy as the Tirith wall guard. And this is the full might of the rebel forces. Kind of inevitable so if we can agree to end it.

      And for the last time, there were two battles on the rammas, dragon's calvary blew a hole during the first one and that's how they got through to the other side of the wall.

      Pat, the ladder-men are prepared, they climb with two rectangular shields to form a pyramid above their head as they climb

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    • TheShade6 wrote:
      Heart, try as you might to make this harder on us, it's the wall guard, which is somewhat sparse and not nearly as heavy as the Tirith wall guard. And this is the full might of the rebel forces. Kind of inevitable so if we can agree to end it.

      And for the last time, there were two battles on the rammas, dragon's calvary blew a hole during the first one and that's how they got through to the other side of the wall.

      Pat, the ladder-men are prepared, they climb with two rectangular shields to form a pyramid above their head as they climb

      I second the rammas thing...

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    • Eradan meets the visitor (Pane) whenever he goes to meet Virgil.

      Around this time, the Ithilien Rangers Eradan sent around the Rammas arrive at the other rebel army. They wish to see the present leaders.

      The ambassador to Osgiliath goes north around Osgiliath outside of the range of the loyalists within, intending to go around and inform his general.

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    • ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote: After the burning incidents any builders or soldiers get feathered wing arrows from archers inside the rubble of the city.

      And again, it's a whole army. They just keep anyone at a distance.

      Heart that's not how it works. Any builders will be completely exposed to archers from the West Bank. Rebuilding a bridge in the middle of the Anduin would be hard enough without constant attack.

      Again, this is a whole army. It's not particularly hard to build guard towers and just keep the enemy at a range that makes it unlikely for them to be doing anything but indirect fire.

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    • TheShade6 wrote: Heart, try as you might to make this harder on us, it's the wall guard, which is somewhat sparse and not nearly as heavy as the Tirith wall guard. And this is the full might of the rebel forces. Kind of inevitable so if we can agree to end it.

      And for the last time, there were two battles on the rammas, dragon's calvary blew a hole during the first one and that's how they got through to the other side of the wall.

      Pat, the ladder-men are prepared, they climb with two rectangular shields to form a pyramid above their head as they climb

      I moved most of the garrison in Minas Tirith here, you muppet.

      Dragon's cavalry made a hole in the gate, as I remember, and it wasn't at all "massive" or anything like that. It was an opposed attempt to break through.

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote: Heart, try as you might to make this harder on us, it's the wall guard, which is somewhat sparse and not nearly as heavy as the Tirith wall guard. And this is the full might of the rebel forces. Kind of inevitable so if we can agree to end it.

      And for the last time, there were two battles on the rammas, dragon's calvary blew a hole during the first one and that's how they got through to the other side of the wall.

      Pat, the ladder-men are prepared, they climb with two rectangular shields to form a pyramid above their head as they climb

      I moved most of the garrison in Minas Tirith here, you muppet.

      Dragon's cavalry made a hole in the gate, as I remember, and it wasn't at all "massive" or anything like that. It was an opposed attempt to break through.

      Heart. They're still being sandwhiched by a total of 32,000 men.

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote: Heart, try as you might to make this harder on us, it's the wall guard, which is somewhat sparse and not nearly as heavy as the Tirith wall guard. And this is the full might of the rebel forces. Kind of inevitable so if we can agree to end it.

      And for the last time, there were two battles on the rammas, dragon's calvary blew a hole during the first one and that's how they got through to the other side of the wall.

      Pat, the ladder-men are prepared, they climb with two rectangular shields to form a pyramid above their head as they climb

      I moved most of the garrison in Minas Tirith here, you muppet.

      Dragon's cavalry made a hole in the gate, as I remember, and it wasn't at all "massive" or anything like that. It was an opposed attempt to break through.

      Heart. They're still being sandwhiched by a total of 32,000 men.

      A sandwich would require men on both sides. Your men, if you haven't noticed, didn't actually break through.

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote: Heart, try as you might to make this harder on us, it's the wall guard, which is somewhat sparse and not nearly as heavy as the Tirith wall guard. And this is the full might of the rebel forces. Kind of inevitable so if we can agree to end it.

      And for the last time, there were two battles on the rammas, dragon's calvary blew a hole during the first one and that's how they got through to the other side of the wall.

      Pat, the ladder-men are prepared, they climb with two rectangular shields to form a pyramid above their head as they climb

      I moved most of the garrison in Minas Tirith here, you muppet.

      Dragon's cavalry made a hole in the gate, as I remember, and it wasn't at all "massive" or anything like that. It was an opposed attempt to break through.

      Heart. They're still being sandwhiched by a total of 32,000 men.

      If we're assuming total armies, the Crownlands have 50,000. 48,500 or so on their own, 1,500 or so from Lamedon.

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote: Heart, try as you might to make this harder on us, it's the wall guard, which is somewhat sparse and not nearly as heavy as the Tirith wall guard. And this is the full might of the rebel forces. Kind of inevitable so if we can agree to end it.

      And for the last time, there were two battles on the rammas, dragon's calvary blew a hole during the first one and that's how they got through to the other side of the wall.

      Pat, the ladder-men are prepared, they climb with two rectangular shields to form a pyramid above their head as they climb

      I moved most of the garrison in Minas Tirith here, you muppet.

      Dragon's cavalry made a hole in the gate, as I remember, and it wasn't at all "massive" or anything like that. It was an opposed attempt to break through.

      Heart. They're still being sandwhiched by a total of 32,000 men.
      A sandwich would require men on both sides. Your men, if you haven't noticed, didn't actually break through.

      ... There are. 17,000 from the one side. And 15,000 from the other. THEY. BROKE. THROUGH. Accept it.

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote: Heart, try as you might to make this harder on us, it's the wall guard, which is somewhat sparse and not nearly as heavy as the Tirith wall guard. And this is the full might of the rebel forces. Kind of inevitable so if we can agree to end it.

      And for the last time, there were two battles on the rammas, dragon's calvary blew a hole during the first one and that's how they got through to the other side of the wall.

      Pat, the ladder-men are prepared, they climb with two rectangular shields to form a pyramid above their head as they climb

      I moved most of the garrison in Minas Tirith here, you muppet.

      Dragon's cavalry made a hole in the gate, as I remember, and it wasn't at all "massive" or anything like that. It was an opposed attempt to break through.

      Heart. They're still being sandwhiched by a total of 32,000 men.
      A sandwich would require men on both sides. Your men, if you haven't noticed, didn't actually break through.

      ... There are. 17,000 from the one side. And 15,000 from the other. THEY. BROKE. THROUGH. Accept it.

      Read what Patrick said, Dragon, before getting angry at me. They still haven't broken through.

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Patrick.vtap wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote: PAT YOU ABSOLUTE BASTARD, IF YOU WANT THE RP TO MOVE FORTH, TELL US WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH THE WALL, IVE WAITED TOO LONG AT THOS POINT

      Shieldberers and heavily armored troops comprise the ladder vanguard, archers and crossbowers provide covering fire for any attempts to disrupt the ladders. Calvary dressed as loyalist reinforcements are coming from the other side of the wall. Now what?

      Maybe Heart should reply to the Ramas Situation? She's in charge of the defense.

      There's some random army that's managed to teleport through the wall. Otherwise, I'm fairly sure you're supposed to be declaring some of the outcomes of the actual battle that's going on.

      The soldiers raise their shields to guard against the arrow-fire, and wait for the ladders to be raised so that they can attack them. The cavalry are met by a group of spearmen at the breach in the Gates.

      ^

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:


      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote: Heart, try as you might to make this harder on us, it's the wall guard, which is somewhat sparse and not nearly as heavy as the Tirith wall guard. And this is the full might of the rebel forces. Kind of inevitable so if we can agree to end it.

      And for the last time, there were two battles on the rammas, dragon's calvary blew a hole during the first one and that's how they got through to the other side of the wall.

      Pat, the ladder-men are prepared, they climb with two rectangular shields to form a pyramid above their head as they climb

      I moved most of the garrison in Minas Tirith here, you muppet.

      Dragon's cavalry made a hole in the gate, as I remember, and it wasn't at all "massive" or anything like that. It was an opposed attempt to break through.

      Heart. They're still being sandwhiched by a total of 32,000 men.
      A sandwich would require men on both sides. Your men, if you haven't noticed, didn't actually break through.
      ... There are. 17,000 from the one side. And 15,000 from the other. THEY. BROKE. THROUGH. Accept it.
      Read what Patrick said, Dragon, before getting angry at me. They still haven't broken through.

      Where did he say that.

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:


      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote: Heart, try as you might to make this harder on us, it's the wall guard, which is somewhat sparse and not nearly as heavy as the Tirith wall guard. And this is the full might of the rebel forces. Kind of inevitable so if we can agree to end it.

      And for the last time, there were two battles on the rammas, dragon's calvary blew a hole during the first one and that's how they got through to the other side of the wall.

      Pat, the ladder-men are prepared, they climb with two rectangular shields to form a pyramid above their head as they climb

      I moved most of the garrison in Minas Tirith here, you muppet.

      Dragon's cavalry made a hole in the gate, as I remember, and it wasn't at all "massive" or anything like that. It was an opposed attempt to break through.

      Heart. They're still being sandwhiched by a total of 32,000 men.
      A sandwich would require men on both sides. Your men, if you haven't noticed, didn't actually break through.
      ... There are. 17,000 from the one side. And 15,000 from the other. THEY. BROKE. THROUGH. Accept it.
      Read what Patrick said, Dragon, before getting angry at me. They still haven't broken through.

      Where did he say that.

      Look at the last message I sent.

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    • I don't see how that proves anything... a hole can be any size. A sinkhole can be HUGE it's still a hole. 

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote: I don't see how that proves anything... a hole can be any size. A sinkhole can be HUGE it's still a hole. 

      It's a gate, actually, and a breach in it. If you haven't noticed, "the cavalry are met by spearmen at the breach" seems to suggest to me that you might not be through that wall yet.

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    • The breach would mean where they're attacking. And it's not at the gate. It's THE STONE PART OF THE NORTHERN WALL

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote:
      The breach would mean where they're attacking. And it's not at the gate. It's THE STONE PART OF THE NORTHERN WALL

      We blew a hole in the wall and marched to the gate. Patrick, back me up ffs.

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:
      The breach would mean where they're attacking. And it's not at the gate. It's THE STONE PART OF THE NORTHERN WALL

      We blew a hole in the wall and marched to the gate. Patrick, back me up ffs.

      "The northern section of the gate blasts with a resounding boom, as it is being destroyed by cannon-shot. Meanwhile, the cannons on the Ramas return fire, killing those who venture near. In the south, there is less success."

      You then proceeded to claim your whole army teleported through that small breach at the gate.

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:
      The breach would mean where they're attacking. And it's not at the gate. It's THE STONE PART OF THE NORTHERN WALL
      We blew a hole in the wall and marched to the gate. Patrick, back me up ffs.
      "The northern section of the gate blasts with a resounding boom, as it is being destroyed by cannon-shot. Meanwhile, the cannons on the Ramas return fire, killing those who venture near. In the south, there is less success."

      You then proceeded to claim your whole army teleported through that small breach at the gate.

      Maybe we should ask Pat how big this hole is. I'm imagining a big hole. You're imagining a minor hole.

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    • TheShade6 wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote: Pane rides for the Atmoran forces, at top speed as soon as he hears word of the plans. Arriving at camp and furiously demanding to see the leader

      @aramir

      Before the slaughter

      He's stripped of all weapons and armor before he's allowed to see General Virgil.

      "I'm going to guess you find my strategy... objectionable."

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    • Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:
      The breach would mean where they're attacking. And it's not at the gate. It's THE STONE PART OF THE NORTHERN WALL
      We blew a hole in the wall and marched to the gate. Patrick, back me up ffs.
      "The northern section of the gate blasts with a resounding boom, as it is being destroyed by cannon-shot. Meanwhile, the cannons on the Ramas return fire, killing those who venture near. In the south, there is less success."

      You then proceeded to claim your whole army teleported through that small breach at the gate.

      Maybe we should ask Pat how big this hole is. I'm imagining a big hole. You're imagining a minor hole.

      I'm imagining a "breach" in the gate. That's not a hole, and it's definitely not large enough to march an army through with any speed at all.

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:


      Dragonbiscuit wrote:
      The breach would mean where they're attacking. And it's not at the gate. It's THE STONE PART OF THE NORTHERN WALL
      We blew a hole in the wall and marched to the gate. Patrick, back me up ffs.
      "The northern section of the gate blasts with a resounding boom, as it is being destroyed by cannon-shot. Meanwhile, the cannons on the Ramas return fire, killing those who venture near. In the south, there is less success."

      You then proceeded to claim your whole army teleported through that small breach at the gate.

      Maybe we should ask Pat how big this hole is. I'm imagining a big hole. You're imagining a minor hole.
      I'm imagining a "breach" in the gate. That's not a hole, and it's definitely not large enough to march an army through with any speed at all.

      I'm imagining Helm's Deep style. When that bomb blew up the wall y'know?

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      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Dragonbiscuit wrote:

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      Dragonbiscuit wrote:


      Dragonbiscuit wrote:
      The breach would mean where they're attacking. And it's not at the gate. It's THE STONE PART OF THE NORTHERN WALL
      We blew a hole in the wall and marched to the gate. Patrick, back me up ffs.
      "The northern section of the gate blasts with a resounding boom, as it is being destroyed by cannon-shot. Meanwhile, the cannons on the Ramas return fire, killing those who venture near. In the south, there is less success."

      You then proceeded to claim your whole army teleported through that small breach at the gate.

      Maybe we should ask Pat how big this hole is. I'm imagining a big hole. You're imagining a minor hole.
      I'm imagining a "breach" in the gate. That's not a hole, and it's definitely not large enough to march an army through with any speed at all.

      I'm imagining Helm's Deep style. When that bomb blew up the wall y'know?

      The wall that "just so happened" to be a gate.

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    • Aramirtheranger wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote: Pane rides for the Atmoran forces, at top speed as soon as he hears word of the plans. Arriving at camp and furiously demanding to see the leader

      @aramir

      Before the slaughter

      He's stripped of all weapons and armor before he's allowed to see General Virgil.

      "I'm going to guess you find my strategy... objectionable."

      "Undoubtedly" he spits out with near contempt "I don't give the slightest shit about your vendetta. My people are doing this for the good of all Gondor's people. Not just to get at the government for spite... You might've been able to convince me that those villages were sacrifices to the end of freedom for all gondor. But I've known her too long, she's both too stubborn and too uncaring to ever meet your demands on those terms...

      Impatience is not unwarranted, no doubt you see the flaws in holding them out that the other lords are blind to. But I have no intention of waiting them out, the lord of ithillen and I have discussed a method of casting them out of the white city. If you hold off on your slaughtering of MY people. I'll ensure that when Ioreth is put on trial, her punishment will be... extradition to Atmora"

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    • Eradan looks over the last letter from Pane once again, letting the plan grow in his mind. He then goes to talk to Virgil and Pane.

      "Lord Virgil, General Pane."

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    • (Just to Clarify: The breach in the gate isn't particularly large. It's not small by any means, but easily defensible by the garrison. If you want to push through, you'll have to assault it. You can't just walk through.)

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    • How did my fire bomb work out? Heart sort of continued as though it happened without happening.

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote:
      (Just to Clarify: The breach in the gate isn't particularly large. It's not small by any means, but easily defensible by the garrison. If you want to push through, you'll have to assault it. You can't just walk through.)

      Well Heart is trying to say she's defending it. Yet not saying how. And if she is. How many men are defending it and how many are defending what Imrahil is assaulting. As far as i'm concerned, if I say i'm defending Europe after Europe has been taken over by magical flying rabbits. I'm not defending Europe because I didn't do anything until Europe wasn't a thing they could defend.

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:
      How did my fire bomb work out? Heart sort of continued as though it happened without happening.

      Ye I have yet to see an army ignore having fire shot at them... Heart i'm just asking you to make all your strategic moves and to stop expecting Pat to make moves for the Loyalists for you...

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    • ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote: After the burning incidents any builders or soldiers get feathered wing arrows from archers inside the rubble of the city.

      And again, it's a whole army. They just keep anyone at a distance.

      Heart that's not how it works. Any builders will be completely exposed to archers from the West Bank. Rebuilding a bridge in the middle of the Anduin would be hard enough without constant attack.

      A bare wooden construction on the ruins of the old stone wouldn't be hard, especially since the supports going down into the riverbed would definitely still be there. Most of the time spent building bridges goes into the supports.

      And the "constant attack" is, again, as I've said, on a whole damn army. If you're trying to suggest a group where tens of thousands of men are armed (probably at most ten thousand, but you get the point) can't defend itself, you're quite definitely mistaken.

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote: How did my fire bomb work out? Heart sort of continued as though it happened without happening.

      I was assuming Pat would clarify.

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      In the North, the other army can be just about seen from Cair Andros, moving more slowly than one would expect, but that is not to say they aren't moving without haste.

      Now, are you going to answer this or not?

      I was getting around to that.

      The approaching army can see soldiers on the walls. The gates are well secure, and above the two gates there appear to be cannon-like objects.

      (They're not quite cannons, they're something else)

      They stay entirely out of range of any conventional weapons, except cannonry, and use their own cannonry to try and coax their enemy into marching towards them.

      The soldiers stand their ground, and minimize casualties by fleeing cannon impact points.

      The cannons just start to try and batter down the walls, rather than attacking any particular soldiers.

      They start moving off the walls and hauling the canon-like device off of the wall.


      "Sergeant! Get that projector off the wall, and load some of its ammunition into that catapult. We're going to have to do this the hard way."

      "But Captain Turgon, our supply of ammunition is limited, the projector could be rendered useless, and we still have another month before Dorwinion considers trading us priceless weapons again!"

      "That was an order, Sergeant Adrahil, not a request. They refuse to come within bow range, and still beyond that of the projector. The catapult is the only way. We shall give them a treat from Dorwinion so great they will forget they ever made wine."

      "Yes Captain Turgon, as you wish. Take down the projector, load the catapult!"

      The army just keeps up the bombardment, with the intention of causing the collapse of the walls around the main gate.

      Suddenly, from behind the walls, a projectile flies upwards in their direction. It appears to be multiple containers in a Dorwinion style loosely kept together by ropes (which they are attached to to prevent strays from falling off). Only too late would any of the learned men among the force be able to realize the terror that had been unleashed upon them. When the projectile hits, a great and volatile flame bursts at an instant, spreading quickly across the men. Thus they behold the terrible Dorwinian Fire.


      "Is the catapult ready?"

      "Sir, yes sir!"

      "Then may the Valar guide us to victory. Release the Flame of Dorwinion!"

      Sorry, missed this. What exactly are you aiming for?

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    • Everyone here, mainly Pat. Would anyone object to me compiling this RP into a book?

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    • TheShade6 wrote:
      Everyone here, mainly Pat. Would anyone object to me compiling this RP into a book?

      No.

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote: How did my fire bomb work out? Heart sort of continued as though it happened without happening.

      I was assuming Pat would clarify.

      My apologies, then.

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      In the North, the other army can be just about seen from Cair Andros, moving more slowly than one would expect, but that is not to say they aren't moving without haste.

      Now, are you going to answer this or not?

      I was getting around to that.

      The approaching army can see soldiers on the walls. The gates are well secure, and above the two gates there appear to be cannon-like objects.

      (They're not quite cannons, they're something else)

      They stay entirely out of range of any conventional weapons, except cannonry, and use their own cannonry to try and coax their enemy into marching towards them.

      The soldiers stand their ground, and minimize casualties by fleeing cannon impact points.

      The cannons just start to try and batter down the walls, rather than attacking any particular soldiers.

      They start moving off the walls and hauling the canon-like device off of the wall.


      "Sergeant! Get that projector off the wall, and load some of its ammunition into that catapult. We're going to have to do this the hard way."

      "But Captain Turgon, our supply of ammunition is limited, the projector could be rendered useless, and we still have another month before Dorwinion considers trading us priceless weapons again!"

      "That was an order, Sergeant Adrahil, not a request. They refuse to come within bow range, and still beyond that of the projector. The catapult is the only way. We shall give them a treat from Dorwinion so great they will forget they ever made wine."

      "Yes Captain Turgon, as you wish. Take down the projector, load the catapult!"

      The army just keeps up the bombardment, with the intention of causing the collapse of the walls around the main gate.

      Suddenly, from behind the walls, a projectile flies upwards in their direction. It appears to be multiple containers in a Dorwinion style loosely kept together by ropes (which they are attached to to prevent strays from falling off). Only too late would any of the learned men among the force be able to realize the terror that had been unleashed upon them. When the projectile hits, a great and volatile flame bursts at an instant, spreading quickly across the men. Thus they behold the terrible Dorwinian Fire.


      "Is the catapult ready?"

      "Sir, yes sir!"

      "Then may the Valar guide us to victory. Release the Flame of Dorwinion!"

      Sorry, missed this. What exactly are you aiming for?

      They launched their Dorwinion Fire (Greek Fire) containers at the army because they were out of the range of the fire projector. I split it into two parts, one non-narrative by the attacking soldiers, the other is a narrative of what happened behind the wall.

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    • TheShade6 wrote: Everyone here, mainly Pat. Would anyone object to me compiling this RP into a book?

      I am presuming it would centre around Pane, so if you want any clarification about Ioreth, just feel free to ask.

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    • ASoIaF POV switches

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    • TheShade6 wrote: ASoIaF POV switches

      Ah, okay, nonetheless, if you need any help at all, feel free to just ask.

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote: ASoIaF POV switches

      Ah, okay, nonetheless, if you need any help at all, feel free to just ask.

      ^ That sounds great. Btw, a lot of secret meetings between me and Imrahil were conducted through discord, so I'll clarify on those.

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote: After the burning incidents any builders or soldiers get feathered wing arrows from archers inside the rubble of the city.

      And again, it's a whole army. They just keep anyone at a distance.

      Heart that's not how it works. Any builders will be completely exposed to archers from the West Bank. Rebuilding a bridge in the middle of the Anduin would be hard enough without constant attack.

      A bare wooden construction on the ruins of the old stone wouldn't be hard, especially since the supports going down into the riverbed would definitely still be there. Most of the time spent building bridges goes into the supports.

      And the "constant attack" is, again, as I've said, on a whole damn army. If you're trying to suggest a group where tens of thousands of men are armed (probably at most ten thousand, but you get the point) can't defend itself, you're quite definitely mistaken.

      This isn't Minecraft, they'd have to be in or around the river, and you can't position your whole army in the river.

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote: "The city is being closely watched, my informants tell me. There will be little way to get out."

      "Fair enough. We will do this with what we have then." He turns to a Haradrim general to his left. "Tell the men to sound the alarm. We're going to war."

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Patrick.vtap wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      In the North, the other army can be just about seen from Cair Andros, moving more slowly than one would expect, but that is not to say they aren't moving without haste.

      Now, are you going to answer this or not?
      I was getting around to that.

      The approaching army can see soldiers on the walls. The gates are well secure, and above the two gates there appear to be cannon-like objects.

      (They're not quite cannons, they're something else)

      They stay entirely out of range of any conventional weapons, except cannonry, and use their own cannonry to try and coax their enemy into marching towards them.
      The soldiers stand their ground, and minimize casualties by fleeing cannon impact points.
      The cannons just start to try and batter down the walls, rather than attacking any particular soldiers.
      They start moving off the walls and hauling the canon-like device off of the wall.

      "Sergeant! Get that projector off the wall, and load some of its ammunition into that catapult. We're going to have to do this the hard way."

      "But Captain Turgon, our supply of ammunition is limited, the projector could be rendered useless, and we still have another month before Dorwinion considers trading us priceless weapons again!"

      "That was an order, Sergeant Adrahil, not a request. They refuse to come within bow range, and still beyond that of the projector. The catapult is the only way. We shall give them a treat from Dorwinion so great they will forget they ever made wine."

      "Yes Captain Turgon, as you wish. Take down the projector, load the catapult!"

      The army just keeps up the bombardment, with the intention of causing the collapse of the walls around the main gate.
      Suddenly, from behind the walls, a projectile flies upwards in their direction. It appears to be multiple containers in a Dorwinion style loosely kept together by ropes (which they are attached to to prevent strays from falling off). Only too late would any of the learned men among the force be able to realize the terror that had been unleashed upon them. When the projectile hits, a great and volatile flame bursts at an instant, spreading quickly across the men. Thus they behold the terrible Dorwinian Fire.

      "Is the catapult ready?"

      "Sir, yes sir!"

      "Then may the Valar guide us to victory. Release the Flame of Dorwinion!"

      Sorry, missed this. What exactly are you aiming for?
      They launched their Dorwinion Fire (Greek Fire) containers at the army because they were out of the range of the fire projector. I split it into two parts, one non-narrative by the attacking soldiers, the other is a narrative of what happened behind the wall.

      Oh, alright.

      The Fire is effective, and intially does much damage. But now, the cannons on the walls are pivoting towards the catapult to destroy it.

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Patrick.vtap wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      The Morgul Lord wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      In the North, the other army can be just about seen from Cair Andros, moving more slowly than one would expect, but that is not to say they aren't moving without haste.

      Now, are you going to answer this or not?
      I was getting around to that.

      The approaching army can see soldiers on the walls. The gates are well secure, and above the two gates there appear to be cannon-like objects.

      (They're not quite cannons, they're something else)

      They stay entirely out of range of any conventional weapons, except cannonry, and use their own cannonry to try and coax their enemy into marching towards them.
      The soldiers stand their ground, and minimize casualties by fleeing cannon impact points.
      The cannons just start to try and batter down the walls, rather than attacking any particular soldiers.
      They start moving off the walls and hauling the canon-like device off of the wall.

      "Sergeant! Get that projector off the wall, and load some of its ammunition into that catapult. We're going to have to do this the hard way."

      "But Captain Turgon, our supply of ammunition is limited, the projector could be rendered useless, and we still have another month before Dorwinion considers trading us priceless weapons again!"

      "That was an order, Sergeant Adrahil, not a request. They refuse to come within bow range, and still beyond that of the projector. The catapult is the only way. We shall give them a treat from Dorwinion so great they will forget they ever made wine."

      "Yes Captain Turgon, as you wish. Take down the projector, load the catapult!"

      The army just keeps up the bombardment, with the intention of causing the collapse of the walls around the main gate.
      Suddenly, from behind the walls, a projectile flies upwards in their direction. It appears to be multiple containers in a Dorwinion style loosely kept together by ropes (which they are attached to to prevent strays from falling off). Only too late would any of the learned men among the force be able to realize the terror that had been unleashed upon them. When the projectile hits, a great and volatile flame bursts at an instant, spreading quickly across the men. Thus they behold the terrible Dorwinian Fire.

      "Is the catapult ready?"

      "Sir, yes sir!"

      "Then may the Valar guide us to victory. Release the Flame of Dorwinion!"

      Sorry, missed this. What exactly are you aiming for?
      They launched their Dorwinion Fire (Greek Fire) containers at the army because they were out of the range of the fire projector. I split it into two parts, one non-narrative by the attacking soldiers, the other is a narrative of what happened behind the wall.

      Oh, alright.

      The Fire is effective, and intially does much damage. But now, the cannons on the walls are pivoting towards the catapult to destroy it.

      The cannon is still behind the wall, but if you guys really have an issue with it, I'll change it.

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    • ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote: After the burning incidents any builders or soldiers get feathered wing arrows from archers inside the rubble of the city.

      And again, it's a whole army. They just keep anyone at a distance.

      Heart that's not how it works. Any builders will be completely exposed to archers from the West Bank. Rebuilding a bridge in the middle of the Anduin would be hard enough without constant attack.

      A bare wooden construction on the ruins of the old stone wouldn't be hard, especially since the supports going down into the riverbed would definitely still be there. Most of the time spent building bridges goes into the supports.

      And the "constant attack" is, again, as I've said, on a whole damn army. If you're trying to suggest a group where tens of thousands of men are armed (probably at most ten thousand, but you get the point) can't defend itself, you're quite definitely mistaken.

      This isn't Minecraft, they'd have to be in or around the river, and you can't position your whole army in the river.

      Around the river still gives massive amounts of missile support.

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote: After the burning incidents any builders or soldiers get feathered wing arrows from archers inside the rubble of the city.

      And again, it's a whole army. They just keep anyone at a distance.
      Heart that's not how it works. Any builders will be completely exposed to archers from the West Bank. Rebuilding a bridge in the middle of the Anduin would be hard enough without constant attack.
      A bare wooden construction on the ruins of the old stone wouldn't be hard, especially since the supports going down into the riverbed would definitely still be there. Most of the time spent building bridges goes into the supports.

      And the "constant attack" is, again, as I've said, on a whole damn army. If you're trying to suggest a group where tens of thousands of men are armed (probably at most ten thousand, but you get the point) can't defend itself, you're quite definitely mistaken.

      This isn't Minecraft, they'd have to be in or around the river, and you can't position your whole army in the river.
      Around the river still gives massive amounts of missile support.

      Can we just get a verdict on who won at the Rammas...

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    • TheShade6 wrote:

      Aramirtheranger wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote: Pane rides for the Atmoran forces, at top speed as soon as he hears word of the plans. Arriving at camp and furiously demanding to see the leader

      @aramir

      Before the slaughter

      He's stripped of all weapons and armor before he's allowed to see General Virgil.

      "I'm going to guess you find my strategy... objectionable."

      "Undoubtedly" he spits out with near contempt "I don't give the slightest shit about your vendetta. My people are doing this for the good of all Gondor's people. Not just to get at the government for spite... You might've been able to convince me that those villages were sacrifices to the end of freedom for all gondor. But I've known her too long, she's both too stubborn and too uncaring to ever meet your demands on those terms...

      Impatience is not unwarranted, no doubt you see the flaws in holding them out that the other lords are blind to. But I have no intention of waiting them out, the lord of ithillen and I have discussed a method of casting them out of the white city. If you hold off on your slaughtering of MY people. I'll ensure that when Ioreth is put on trial, her punishment will be... extradition to Atmora"

      Virgil gets up, walks over to the captain of his bodyguard, and tells him something in Atmoran.

      He sits back down behind his desk, and the soldier leaves. "He'll call off Tacitus... but we also want the rest of the Royalist nobles who refuse to swear fealty to whoever replaces her."

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    • "Thank you, I swear you'll have them if we win this"

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    • As Pane is leaving he is pulled aside by Eradan to have a private conversation.

      "Thank you for taking care of that, Pane. In truth, I was looking to have their people disassociated with us because further Gondorian control of their lands would be futile, so I offered little resistance to further alienate them. The Atmorans have grown too strong to be contained by our now frail kingdom. Gondor never should have left the old Kingdom, for that is where it lost its ability to control an empire. But I have not come to discuss the obvious, but what we are to plan. We need to consider the nature of our attack."

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    • "Perhaps we can rejoin them, but until we have a solid hold they will have nothing to do with us. The attack on Tirith must come when we have a solid hold on the rest of the lands. If the situation at the Rammas dies not tip in our favor then I may consider abandoning it, it's not important compared to taking hold of all the fiefs and cities. We should seek to alleviate the plague from all our central territories. On the northern and southern border I feel it is a necessary evil to deter outside forces. It may be the only thing holding Ioreths allies at bay. When we finally do execute the plan, it will do little more than flush them out if anything, so the Rammas will be required before then, so that we may have a chance at facing them in the Pelenor"

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    • The final riders are sent to the army of Rohirrim, and another to Arnor, in an attempt to get the both to speed up in their support, with the Rohirrim being sent directly to the current battles. The messages are sent with all haste, and the one to Arnor barely requests permission before rushing towards the King.

      "You know as well as I do what your own failure to act has caused."

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    • Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote:

      Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

      ChazmanianDevil wrote: After the burning incidents any builders or soldiers get feathered wing arrows from archers inside the rubble of the city.

      And again, it's a whole army. They just keep anyone at a distance.

      Heart that's not how it works. Any builders will be completely exposed to archers from the West Bank. Rebuilding a bridge in the middle of the Anduin would be hard enough without constant attack.

      A bare wooden construction on the ruins of the old stone wouldn't be hard, especially since the supports going down into the riverbed would definitely still be there. Most of the time spent building bridges goes into the supports.

      And the "constant attack" is, again, as I've said, on a whole damn army. If you're trying to suggest a group where tens of thousands of men are armed (probably at most ten thousand, but you get the point) can't defend itself, you're quite definitely mistaken.

      This isn't Minecraft, they'd have to be in or around the river, and you can't position your whole army in the river.

      Around the river still gives massive amounts of missile support.

      This is the simplest cannon technology here, not fully mounted swiveling missile launchers.

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    • (Alright, this is getting somewhat confusing for me to follow. I'd like everybody to tell me everything they need resolved.

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    • TheShade6 wrote: "Perhaps we can rejoin them, but until we have a solid hold they will have nothing to do with us. The attack on Tirith must come when we have a solid hold on the rest of the lands. If the situation at the Rammas dies not tip in our favor then I may consider abandoning it, it's not important compared to taking hold of all the fiefs and cities. We should seek to alleviate the plague from all our central territories. On the northern and southern border I feel it is a necessary evil to deter outside forces. It may be the only thing holding Ioreths allies at bay. When we finally do execute the plan, it will do little more than flush them out if anything, so the Rammas will be required before then, so that we may have a chance at facing them in the Pelenor"

      "You know, I was beginning to think that myself. We have the Fiefs and we have the cities, save for those within tis small pocket of the Queen's territory. News has reached my ear that Osgiliath is with us, which would make it very useful for uniting our cause against the Queen.[he spits] The only problem is that an army of loyalists marched into the east side, and the famed Dome of Stars is currently only connected to that side because of my original plan to annex that half after the plague did its job. Ithilien will not be a problem in alleviation of the plague, I have done that myself prior to this, but I think it would be foolish to place that before the goal of securing our hold over this land. The protectorates of Gondor are only as loyal as the reign of their leader. They would not wage open war on us if we conquered their conquerers, but as it stands they will do so until not one of their men are left if they are under orders. To me, if your plan of the attack will work, we need to take this part of the Rammas at the very least. Ultimately, the goal must be as you said, to meet them in Pelenor fields, conquer them, and take the seat of Elendil once and for all."

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    • Patrick.vtap wrote:
      (Alright, this is getting somewhat confusing for me to follow. I'd like everybody to tell me everything they need resolved.

      Who won the Rammas Echor. 

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    • The Morgul Lord wrote:

      TheShade6 wrote: "Perhaps we can rejoin them, but until we have a solid hold they will have nothing to do with us. The attack on Tirith must come when we have a solid hold on the rest of the lands. If the situation at the Rammas dies not tip in our favor then I may consider abandoning it, it's not important compared to taking hold of all the fiefs and cities. We should seek to alleviate the plague from all our central territories. On the northern and southern border I feel it is a necessary evil to deter outside forces. It may be the only thing holding Ioreths allies at bay. When we finally do execute the plan, it will do little more than flush them out if anything, so the Rammas will be required before then, so that we may have a chance at facing them in the Pelenor"

      "You know, I was beginning to think that myself. We have the Fiefs and we have the cities, save for those within tis small pocket of the Queen's territory. News has reached my ear that Osgiliath is with us, which would make it very useful for uniting our cause against the Queen.[he spits] The only problem is that an army of loyalists marched into the east side, and the famed Dome of Stars is currently only connected to that side because of my original plan to annex that half after the plague did its job. Ithilien will not be a problem in alleviation of the plague, I have done that myself prior to this, but I think it would be foolish to place that before the goal of securing our hold over this land. The protectorates of Gondor are only as loyal as the reign of their leader. They would not wage open war on us if we conquered their conquerers, but as it stands they will do so until not one of their men are left if they are under orders. To me, if your plan of the attack will work, we need to take this part of the Rammas at the very least. Ultimately, the goal must be as you said, to meet them in Pelenor fields, conquer them, and take the seat of Elendil once and for all."

      "If you don't mind my butting in... I've realized a flaw in Minas Tirith's defenses."

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    • "Do tell, a second weakness may be useful"


      @Dragon @Imrahil I'm calling for a retreat, the Rammas is not that important, the siege was only because I figured might as well take it, but not if we are going to lose most of our forces in the process

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    • A retreat would be more devastating. I'm more in favor of calling for Heart to admit she's wrong.

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    • Wrong? About?

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    • TheShade6 wrote:
      Wrong? About?

      She seems to refuse that she's sandwhiched by 32k

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    • TheShade6 wrote: "Do tell, a second weakness may be useful"

      "Indeed, tell us what we have overlooked, anything will be useful to us."

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    • Retreat or not, we need resolutions at Cair Andros and the Rammas.

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